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Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by jraby3 »

elynde wrote: post #30

Bedtime procrastination is my kryptonite. Every other habit like working hard, exercising, eating right I do well at but can't fix this. I've battled with it my whole life. Even as a toddler I would stay up late reading in secret. There is just something about the stillness when everyone else is asleep where I feel like my brain can finally wind down/process the day/kick back and relax. Anyone else struggled so badly…

Maybe fix it by accepting it and yourself.

I love getting up early for the same reason. Everyone is asleep everything is quiet and I can just relax in a way I can’t when people are around.

If you can, try to arrange your morning routine to give you some extra time to sleep and enjoy the quality time at night.

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by otikik »

swimwiththebeat wrote: post #28

It’s amazing how much attaching a name to some phenomenon or problem and discussing it helps in understanding it and taking the first steps to address it. Knowing that bedtime procrastination is a real thing that affects others not only gives me comfort, but also helps me think about it very consciously and figure out how to take the first steps to solve it. I never thought about it from the revenge and agency perspe…

Names are important. One of the most important things, perhaps. It conditions how we think. For example, the denomination “fiscal paradise” could have been “tax evasion den” instead.

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by grecy »

elynde wrote: post #30

Bedtime procrastination is my kryptonite. Every other habit like working hard, exercising, eating right I do well at but can't fix this. I've battled with it my whole life. Even as a toddler I would stay up late reading in secret. There is just something about the stillness when everyone else is asleep where I feel like my brain can finally wind down/process the day/kick back and relax. Anyone else struggled so badly…

For me it’s all about removing the tempting things I would normally waste time with. Go camping and don’t take a phone or book or kindle. Buy night two I’m asleep before my head hits the pillow!

So at home I try to do the same. Before reaching for the laptop or phone I ask myself what I’m going to do with it, and if the answer Is waste time, I try very hard not to pick it up (doing something else makes that easier - load the dishwasher, get lunch ready for tomorrow, etc)

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by otikik »

The_Colonel wrote: post #9

Framing it is a revenge doesn't make sense for me. It's more like I'm asserting myself as a real person with interests, not just obligation fulfillment machine.

I think it’s because it was translated from a Chinese expression. Probably the original had different nuances.

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by cortesoft »

As a parent of young children, the only alternative is to completely give up any personal time. If I go to bed when the kids go to bed, I have zero time for any of my own hobbies.

I just don’t think I am willing to do that.

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by tkiolp4 »

Perhaps off topic: if I go to sleep at 10pm (something I never do, except if I have to wake up very early for whatever reason) and wake up at 6am, I feel like crap. Very sleepy and it takes me a couple of hours to be fully awake. Those 8h don’t feel the same as when I sleep from 1am to 9am, for example (my regular sleeping time).

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by mindslight »

grecy wrote: post #33
elynde wrote: post #30

Bedtime procrastination is my kryptonite. Every other habit like working hard, exercising, eating right I do well at but can't fix this. I've battled with it my whole life. Even as a toddler I would stay up late reading in secret. There is just something about the stillness when everyone else is asleep where I feel like my brain can finally wind down/process the day/kick back and relax. Anyone else struggled so badly…

For me it’s all about removing the tempting things I would normally waste time with. Go camping and don’t take a phone or book or kindle. Buy night two I’m asleep before my head hits the pillow! So at home I try to do the same. Before reaching for the laptop or phone I ask myself what I’m going to do with it, and if the answer Is waste time, I try very hard not to pick it up (doing something else makes that easier -…

On this topic, camping is "cheating", IMO. I naturally want to wake up somewhere around 10AM. (I'm sure I've got something like "delayed phase sleep syndrome", but don't see the point of medicalizing/externalizing it rather than just knowing myself and mitigating the harm from society). But stick me in a tent outdoors and it's a few short days until I'm waking up with the sun, or even the birds.

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by grecy »

mindslight wrote: post #38
grecy wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it’s all about removing the tempting things I would normally waste time with. Go camping and don’t take a phone or book or kindle. Buy night two I’m asleep before my head hits the pillow! So at home I try to do the same. Before reaching for the laptop or phone I ask myself what I’m going to do with it, and if the answer Is waste time, I try very hard not to pick it up (doing something else makes that easier -…

On this topic, camping is "cheating", IMO. I naturally want to wake up somewhere around 10AM. (I'm sure I've got something like "delayed phase sleep syndrome", but don't see the point of medicalizing/externalizing it rather than just knowing myself and mitigating the harm from society). But stick me in a tent outdoors and it's a few short days until I'm waking up with the sun, or even the birds.

Go to bed with the sun at home, that will help you wake up with the sun.

Re: Revenge bedtime procrastination

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Post by mindslight »

grecy wrote: post #39
mindslight wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On this topic, camping is "cheating", IMO. I naturally want to wake up somewhere around 10AM. (I'm sure I've got something like "delayed phase sleep syndrome", but don't see the point of medicalizing/externalizing it rather than just knowing myself and mitigating the harm from society). But stick me in a tent outdoors and it's a few short days until I'm waking up with the sun, or even the birds.

Go to bed with the sun at home, that will help you wake up with the sun.

I'm sure light has much to do with it, but that's a poor proposition at this time of year in the northern hemisphere. And frankly often times when it starts to get dark is when I actually start to feel fully awake.

Of course the caffeine dependence I've built up lately doesn't help that. It's one hell of a high interest loan, and there's never a good time to pay it off.

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