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Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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Re: Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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ZIRP is over and SaaS is entrenched. Prepare for a LOT more rug pulling and price gouging. The labor and capital cost savings for moving to the cloud and SaaS were to get you there and get you dependent. Now that you don’t have in house IT anymore it’s time to turn the screws. You will soon be paying 2-3X what self hosted internal IT cost. The the pendulum will start to swing the other way. This is one of those endle…

What is ZIRP?

Zero interest rate policies - cheap debt

Re: Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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Who is upvoting this blog spam from an account created 4hrs ago?

While it's a bit unusual for a new account submitting only one site to have two posts on the front page, it seems to be a well-written article. I certainly appreciate fresh takes over someone submitting the same Paul Graham or Kalzumeus page that been submitted dozens of times, or over users who submit several times a day, every day (tosh, tomte, etc)

Re: Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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Terraform Cloud costs are an absolute joke. I was actually the decision maker a couple of years ago when we chose our IAC stack and decided not to go with Terraform Cloud despite thinking the product is strong, and it was entirely due to the business model and cost. For us (and I'm guessing for many VC funded companies), SAAS managed IAC is a nice to have, but certainly not a MUST-have and certainly not something in…

At a prior company, we had a terraform slack channel, where people would post lock and unlock emojis and apply terraform manually.

Obviously, it's not a perfect system, and it doesn't indefinitely scale, but it worked well enough.

Re: Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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Terraform Cloud costs are an absolute joke. I was actually the decision maker a couple of years ago when we chose our IAC stack and decided not to go with Terraform Cloud despite thinking the product is strong, and it was entirely due to the business model and cost. For us (and I'm guessing for many VC funded companies), SAAS managed IAC is a nice to have, but certainly not a MUST-have and certainly not something in…

I think Terraform Cloud (and most Hashi's enterprise offerings) aim at absolutel behemoths of deployments with many, many infra teams where the complexity comes from scale and the companies are not Google or Facebook and therefore this problem can't be solved through talent. For many such enterprises it's easier to throw money at the problem.

Except those same companies then run into hidden limits that exist on Terraform Cloud and hadn't been previously mentioned. Honestly, even bigger companies are better off going with Spacelift as it can scale extremely well, has reasonable support, and is much more feature rich.

As a disclaiming I'm currently writing a book on Terraform, and I've been interacting with a lot of the people in the space. Up until a few years ago I was a huge fan of Hashicorp, but their price changes and lack of support were what made it so I couldn't recommend Terraform Cloud anymore. The license changes they made were the icing on that cake.

Re: Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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Was there actually a price increase recently and not 6 months ago? If people just want to vent about Hashicorp/Terraform, it seems like a text-post would be sufficient for that.

It was announced a while back but the deadline to migrate to the new billing model is EOY.

Re: Terraform Cloud Pricing Changes Sticker Shock

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post #44

Terraform Cloud costs are an absolute joke. I was actually the decision maker a couple of years ago when we chose our IAC stack and decided not to go with Terraform Cloud despite thinking the product is strong, and it was entirely due to the business model and cost. For us (and I'm guessing for many VC funded companies), SAAS managed IAC is a nice to have, but certainly not a MUST-have and certainly not something in…

At a prior company, we had a terraform slack channel, where people would post lock and unlock emojis and apply terraform manually. Obviously, it's not a perfect system, and it doesn't indefinitely scale, but it worked well enough.

We use Atlantis [0] for CI/CD automation of Terraform pull requests to a centralized repository. It's pretty good too, especially for a self-hosted solution. I can't see how Terraform Cloud's costs would be justifiable for us without a custom contract.

[0] https://www.runatlantis.io/

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