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I will always prefer to work from home

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Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by fnordpiglet »

tqi wrote: post #33

Who is this meant to convince? Has anyone ever changed their mind as a result of reading a listicle of complaints? This seems more like something for people who already agree with the author to read and self righteously think "yeah, this is THE way" There isn't some objective right answer here. Different people value different things, and that's ok. Companies can set their RTO policies as they see fit, and that's ok.…

Someone once nailed a list of complaints to a church door and it seems to have convinced quite a few folks.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by karaterobot »

Here's a reason I never see brought up in discussions like this. For me, it's as important as the others:

Being an introvert, I always used to be exhausted at the end of the work week. I liked my coworkers a lot, and I liked spending time around them, but it didn't matter, I'd still feel wrung out at the end of the day. And by the end of the week, each day's exhaustion would have accumulated to the point where I needed two days spent doing absolutely nothing just to feel right again.

Going for a weekend trip? Impossible, I barely want to shop for groceries. Hanging out with friends? Not going to happen, I talk to people all day at work. The weekend didn't feel like a vacation, it felt like a time to catch my breath, and nothing more than that.

Since WFH, I don't run my batteries down during the week, and suddenly I have all this energy on Saturday and Sunday. I've taken up new hobbies, I visit places, I catch up with friends, I exercise, I go to restaurants. I've done more interesting stuff in the last 4 years than in the previous 10, because suddenly I have usable time and available energy. I thought I was a homebody, turns out I'm not. Imagine not finding that out for the first 20 years of your career! I'm not going back to the office, that's for sure.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by joshmanders »

rootusrootus wrote: post #89
joshmanders wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I've stopped trying to correct autocorrect when it decides a word I spelled correctly isn't the word I wanted and changes it with a different word.

I hate how autocorrect has evolved into something that tries to actually rewrite words that I've written, even after I've moved onto the next word. And sometimes the old trick of just backspacing and typing it again doesn't convince autocorrect that I in fact know what I'm typing and want to keep it. I'd prefer to just have it highlight the word it thinks as wrong, and leave it alone. Kinda like when I'm on my comput…

Then you actually do typo a word and are one letter off and is clearly wrong and it’s like “nah that’s good we’re not changing anything”

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by cmiles74 »

codegeek wrote: post #7

Yes great points. But most WFH advocates forget to talk about juniors or people who are just starting their careers or people who just cannot wfh effectively. The article talks about Management's arguments against WFH but fails to mention any of the points I mentioned. The best solution in my opinion is hybrid especially for juniors and I will die on this hill.

I spend a lot of time working with the junior developers on my team, mostly because that's part of my job. There's also a selfish component: if I don't help the new people get up to speed and improve, then I will be less confident delegating tasks.

IMHO, there is sufficient motivation for senior developers to work with the junior members of the team that are unrelated to physical space.

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Post by aulin »

throw__away7391 wrote: post #29

Under-appreciated: not wearing shoes all day. Anytime I need to spend a day in an office now, when I finally get home and pull off my shoes and sweat soaked shoes I'm so glad I don't have to do this on a regular basis anymore.

It's not even sweat, you need to take off shoes after hours sitting at a desk because feet swell from the blood not being pushed back up as you're not moving your legs. There are few things I hate about office work as much as not being free to work on my slippers in the winter or flip flops in the summer.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by juunpp »

dmitrygr wrote: post #84
charcircuit wrote: post #39

Some of these issues would go away if the author used headphones and the office used an open floor plan instead of cubicles.

Let me be crystal clear: NO ISSUES ARE RESOLVED by an open office plan, unless your issue is "productivity"

It resolves the issue of killing productivity and making most people feel miserable.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by SoftTalker »

TrackerFF wrote: post #52

I have a very short commute, 5 min walk from door to work. So that's 10 minutes a day. With 260 workdays a year, for me that's 2600 minutes - or 43.3 hours, just over 5 workdays, spent to and from work. One of my colleagues has a 1 hour commute, so for him that's whooping 520 hours / 65 workdays spent on commuting! But anyway, the commute isn't the only factor for me: During my 30 min lunch, I spend maybe 10 minutes…

Unfortunately one can't reconstitute minutes saved here and there into long blocks of time that can be used later. That limits the practical impact of these sorts of commute comparisons and other time-wasting activities that we all do.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by rootusrootus »

grubbs wrote: post #75
rootusrootus wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel you on the winter thing. I added an electric heater to my office so I can keep the temperatures a bit higher than the rest of the house (mostly I do this for my fingers, honestly). And through the magic of LEDs I have a fairly ridiculous amount of light I can turn on. Makes winter more bearable when I can make it as bright as high noon in July. I totally get wanting to go into the office. I would go in a few d…

My fingers get SO cold. Literally to the point I'm about to wear gloves. Every couple hours I'll thaw them out against the space heater.. Any other hacks for this are welcome. Exercises?

My only other method for dealing with it is alternate ways of getting warmer. When I don't want to turn the space heater on, sometimes I'll fill up a hot water bottle and put it under my feet. Warming the blood up there is reasonably effective at warming up my whole body and thus my fingers.

Maybe a heated desk pad, or some other kind of keyboard heater?

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

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Post by jes5199 »

karaterobot wrote: post #102

Here's a reason I never see brought up in discussions like this. For me, it's as important as the others: Being an introvert, I always used to be exhausted at the end of the work week. I liked my coworkers a lot, and I liked spending time around them, but it didn't matter, I'd still feel wrung out at the end of the day. And by the end of the week, each day's exhaustion would have accumulated to the point where I need…

I find Zoom so much more exhausting that being in the office, I am way more wiped out by my 2023 job than by my 2019 job
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