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I will always prefer to work from home

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Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#41

Agree on all points in the article. One of the most underrated features of WFH is my own private bathroom. This is something I would never have at the office.

As someone who had bell/chili pepper family triggered IBS for 6 years without knowing the cause. This 100%.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#42
I think what’s missing in these conversations is the cost of living near an office.

Housing costs are very high. If I could live 10 minutes from an office I’d go all the time. But most live much farther, which puts an untenable strain on them (and the environment, infrastructure, etc!)

Of course the C-suite class probably DOES live 10 minutes from an office. They can afford to, unlike most employees.

If you want RTO build more dense housing near where offices are located. And build solid transit and other means of getting to an office quickly.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#43
> Just when I am deep in some twisted train of thought involving a failing JS callback or missing network packets in Kubernetes someone ambles over to my cubicle to ask me some random question about helm that they could have answered in 2 seconds using the search function of their web browser. Train derailed.

> Don’t talk to me about collaboration when I sometimes have to turn off slack to be able to hear myself think.

Why not communicate to the people that interrupt that they should not come to your cubicle to ask their questions, and should send you a Slack message with their question instead?

And then, if you are deep into something and you don't want to be disturbed, you can mute your slack notifications.

It feels to me, from the tone of the post, that the writer prefers WFH because it allows them to side-step issues that they could have resolved with communication. Of course this doesn't apply to the practical issues (time lost commuting, ...)

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#44
post #34

I did contracting for Deere & Co, because of how close they are to my home, they requested I be on site. Wanting to be a team player I agreed, it was only a 3 hour round trip, they even agreed to pay me for the commute. My time started the second I left my house and didn't stop until I got home. But here's the thing. The days I was on site, I sat in my own cubicle and didn't converse with any of my colleagues except…

*on site :)

At this point I've stopped trying to correct autocorrect when it decides a word I spelled correctly isn't the word I wanted and changes it with a different word.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#45

Agree on all points in the article. One of the most underrated features of WFH is my own private bathroom. This is something I would never have at the office.

I'd chip in doing laundry or dishes whilst on a boring call I'm forced to attend. Just don't forget to mute the mike on the headset.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you can't just teach juniors how to work from home effectively, just how you teach them how to do their job. It's all part of the same thing. I've certainly helped juniors over a video call just as effectively as being next to them physically. In one case I point a finger on their screen, in another I point my mouse cursor on their screen.

It's much harder. We are social animals on a whole. Nothing beats in person interactions. I am not against remote work btw.

And we continue to be social animals over video chat. Harder in what sense? I hear this a lot, but I rarely hear concrete examples. Feels to me more that people are just not accustomed to fully online communication at work rather than that it actually being harder. Change is hard, yes. But that doesn't mean that what you change into is actually more difficult.

Also, I'm not sure of newer generations where you're from, but here what I see is less and less want from people to have in-person conversations. Newer generations have everything done remotely. Ordering food, socializing (online video games, etc), that in-person conversations often are intimating to them. Which begs the question, have the people who say juniors need in-person help actually asked juniors what they would like? Or is it more that _you_ are more comfortable _teaching_ in-person, in which case again, the problem seems to be you, not the juniors.

All-in-all, I'm just not seeing the difficulties people seem to say they have. Just my $0.02.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#48
I wonder why companies feel the need to set physical presence policies at the company level. Wouldn’t it be more efficient to do it team-by-team? Is the unspoken admission that nobody would choose to pick a collocated team if they could join a remote one?

A team composed of 4 people, where one’s in SF, another in NYC, etc is having a very different experience from one where all 4 people are all collocated.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you can't just teach juniors how to work from home effectively, just how you teach them how to do their job. It's all part of the same thing. I've certainly helped juniors over a video call just as effectively as being next to them physically. In one case I point a finger on their screen, in another I point my mouse cursor on their screen.

It's much harder. We are social animals on a whole. Nothing beats in person interactions. I am not against remote work btw.

You can be social over a video call. No one needs to suffer through all of the bullshit of modern offices just to lean over someone's shoulder to read some code.

Re: I will always prefer to work from home

#50

I feel these discussions always go the same way. Working at an office sucks because of some combination of {long commute, open office plan, team not being there}. I quite like going to the office myself because my situation is the opposite: I bike to work, where I have my own office, and my team likes to come in too. Hating the office is totally justifiable given that my setup isn't common; most people are forced to…

I worked at a place years back that was expanding; bought a second building - 2 stories. Downstairs had semi-open cubicles, and a wall of private office spaces (8 IIRC). All empty. Cubes were full. I was in the other building, told we were needing to move over the next couple months. I asked for one of the private spaces. They weren't really that big, and had no natural light, but... they did have a door. I'd been wr…

I don't even need a private office. One of the best environments I've ever worked in was a hybrid office/open model. Basically a bunch of conference rooms where each team got a room, and within the room the desk walls were low. Decorate it however you want, if you agree on style then you can have ambient music, etc. It was pretty great.

But then they knocked all the walls down and put in rows of desks because they could cram more people in that way. Within a year probably 25% of our development staff walked.

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