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My pixel slate has a USB-C port that will only charge in one orientation.
That sounds like it's either broken or there's some dust or lint in the plug/cable. Google is usually pretty good about their USB-C implementations.
Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
#112A lot of devices don't need what USB-C offers: USB-A is a concurrent, not legacy, standard. You want USB-C for high-power, high-transfer-speed connections. An incredible number of peripherals don't need either of those things, connecting them with USB-C just makes no sense.
The main use I encounter where USB-A is actually better are dongles that don't stick out.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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> There's no technical reasons for those to be USB A, and the USB C ones work great. There's a good technical reason for keyboards and mice to still be USB A: adapters from USB A socket to USB C plug are allowed by the standard, but adapters from USB C socket to USB A plug are forbidden (because they would, together with a common USB C cable, allow creating the forbidden USB A to USB A cable). This means that USB A k…
>because they would, together with a common USB C cable, allow creating the forbidden USB A to USB A cable Not hard to do this regardless. Amazon sells A-to-A cables[0]; and Unicomp keyboards for example have a USB-A port in the back, and connect to PCs with a bundled A-to-A cable. Seems like preventing this is a lost cause. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-1-5ft-24AWG-Cable-Plated/dp...
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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USB-C is simply more convenient to use, and you get it right 100% of the time, instead of your orientation being wrong 50% of the time with USB-A.
Typically I get it wrong 100% of the time, i.e. I was in the right orientation but misaligned so it does not work, so I flip it, fails again, and then I swear and flip it a second time.
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Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
#115calling USB A “legacy” and a “relic” is so misplaced. we all still own USB A devices. I challenge the author to go find a wired keyboard or mouse that comes with a USB C plug. it’s possible, but not easy. the thing is, we could just have both! this isn’t some winner/loser scenario. the real question should be why these computers with enough bandwidth for 11+ connectors don’t at least split the difference with 6/5 of…
Weirdly, the port on a cheap mechanical keyboard I have is USB-C but the cable they packaged is USB-C -> USB-A instead. They likely didn't package C->C because of the chicken and egg problem. Not everyone has enough Type-C ports.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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http://codekeyboards.com are currently USB C as are https://www.wasdkeyboards.com
Note that these are keyboards and not mouses, and they have USB-C sockets rather than permanently attached cables with USB-C plugs. They are also very premium products. When it comes to the entire ecosystem, a $5 bargain-bin noname OEM keyboard with permanently-attached cable is more representative - and those definitely don't come with USB-C yet. That would probably add a few cents to their BOM, so it simply isn't w…
Throwing away a perfectly good device because the cable is kaputz exacerbates our e-waste problem
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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Just don't accidentally stick USB-C into a USB-A port. It will fit and it will short the port, causing the machine to crash. Speaking from experience...
Sometimes I look at USB-C plugs and US power outlets and wonder if there’s a shock hazard there…
After a nap I actually did put on headphones and plug them into the power socket by mistake. Luckily nothing happened.
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
#118calling USB A “legacy” and a “relic” is so misplaced. we all still own USB A devices. I challenge the author to go find a wired keyboard or mouse that comes with a USB C plug. it’s possible, but not easy. the thing is, we could just have both! this isn’t some winner/loser scenario. the real question should be why these computers with enough bandwidth for 11+ connectors don’t at least split the difference with 6/5 of…
Re: Why aren't motherboards mostly USB-C by now? (2021)
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Maybe it's a chicken and egg thing, but why do we still have usb-a keyboards and mice and thumb drives? wouldn't it make more sense for them all to be usb-c?
Having them be USB C would mean they could only be used on USB C ports (adapters from USB C socket to USB A plug are forbidden by the USB standard, because they would allow creating the forbidden USB A to USB A cable), while having them be USB A allows them to be used on both USB A ports and (with a simple passive adapter) USB C ports.
In the early days of USB before flash drives were common, I was convinced such a cable would let me connect two PCs together to transfer data. Spent some time looking around in stores before a kind sales rep advised they did not exist.