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Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by inferiorhuman »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #110
inferiorhuman wrote: post #109

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I am also hesitant about working (even free) third-party tools into my workflow. What?

"Hesitant about" -not the same thing as "refuse to" I use Xcode. Arguably, it's "free," if you ignore the fact that I run it on a $4,000 computer, but it is also the OS maker's tool of choice. But each tool I add, each dependency in my workflow, is another rusty link in the chain. I feel that we have gotten a bit too comfortable with adding ingredients to the stew. A font isn't really that big a deal (unless you sell…

Sorry, the question is: what third party software are you talking about?

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #111
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #110

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"Hesitant about" -not the same thing as "refuse to" I use Xcode. Arguably, it's "free," if you ignore the fact that I run it on a $4,000 computer, but it is also the OS maker's tool of choice. But each tool I add, each dependency in my workflow, is another rusty link in the chain. I feel that we have gotten a bit too comfortable with adding ingredients to the stew. A font isn't really that big a deal (unless you sell…

Sorry, the question is: what third party software are you talking about?

Oh. Got it.

I don't want to "name names," because that doesn't often end well. It's a personal decision, on my part to use, or not use, software. Many of the more esoteric tools that I use are "nice to have" addons, as opposed to "critical path" stuff.

I will say that I use Xcode, because I write native Swift apps, and it doesn't really make sense to use anything else. I try to limit extensions and whatnot. Most of the dependencies that I use in my projects were written by Yours Truly. I've written a boatload of them. I publish them as open source, but I don't think anyone else uses them; which is fine, by me.

I also use Git, because Linus writes code that I don't mind depending on. It has completely transformed the way that I do configuration management.

Back when I taught myself Android, I used Android Studio/Java (so you know that was a while ago), for the same reason that I use Xcode/Swift. It was the tool supported by the OS maker.

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by firecall »

This does look very nice!

Still, I often go back to what I know and what I got used to as the default on the OS.

So, as a macOS user, I work with Apple's SF Mono:

  https://developer.apple.com/fonts/
I tried hard to get along with JetBrains Mono, but in the end I just didn't enjoy their ligatures!

Also, I never get bored of discussions on what dev monospace fonts people use! :-D

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by inferiorhuman »

neilpanchal wrote: post #85
parentheses wrote: post #65

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I always felt a bit like a weirdo writing 7 that way - no one I know writes it that way. Glad to find there are other folks like me.

I also write Z and z with a stroke. And then someone on Twitter suggested we should add it as an option. I don’t know why I didn’t think of it despite of writing it that way! It’s coming.

I saw this, and the comment below asking why there are different versions of e.g. 0 and 7. Saw the variant picker on your site, and I can't help but wonder:

Do you have any plans to add the different variants in as stylistic alternates (SALTn tables)? This is how FontFont encoded two styles of numbers and other various symbols into a single OpenType font. With FF Zwo I like some of the alternates but not others and this lets me choose.

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by klooney »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #62
logbiscuitswave wrote: post #11

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Every so often I go on a “font bender” and start searching for my “next great coding font”. I’ve been using Hack ( https://sourcefoundry.org/hack/ ) for several years, but after looking at this I might need to give it a try. It looks really nice and the price is right. The font in the OP looks great too, but I can’t bring myself to pay for it. Not when there’s so many great alternatives out there at no cost.

Same. I love experimenting with my coding font and for the past year or so I was using Hack. I wasn't able to find anything better yet after trying a lot of fonts: Fira, JetBrains Mono, Iosevka, Monaspace, Ubuntu Mono, and others. Or perhaps I'm too familiar with Hack now and everything else now looks weird..

Hack's Bitstream Vera ancestry brings me back to installing Debian as a thirteen year old, a strong nostalgic pull.

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by neilpanchal »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #116
neilpanchal wrote: post #85

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I also write Z and z with a stroke. And then someone on Twitter suggested we should add it as an option. I don’t know why I didn’t think of it despite of writing it that way! It’s coming.

I saw this, and the comment below asking why there are different versions of e.g. 0 and 7. Saw the variant picker on your site, and I can't help but wonder: Do you have any plans to add the different variants in as stylistic alternates (SALTn tables)? This is how FontFont encoded two styles of numbers and other various symbols into a single OpenType font. With FF Zwo I like some of the alternates but not others and t…

They already are part of stylistic sets. So, for example, if you download a combination of 0 and 7 (regardless of which one), there are ss01-ss06 stylistic sets that encode other options in it.

The reason why we have a "font configurator" is because lot of terminals/IDEs/tools/OS, etc haven't got a full support for OpenType features. So we let users configure it as they like and it just works.

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by enz »

parentheses wrote: post #65
oktwtf wrote: post #20

Berkeley Mono is my favourite! It's the crossed seven that matches my handwritten style which I really appreciate. Not very common in other monospace fonts I've tried. I really enjoy this font for development and writing documentation. I carry it around for everything. Default monospace across the board: Terminal, IDE, Notes; sometimes I go buck-wild and monospace the entire Desktop-Environment to match.

I always felt a bit like a weirdo writing 7 that way - no one I know writes it that way. Glad to find there are other folks like me.

I guess it’s also something cultural depending on where we live. I’m from France and here a lot of people cross 7 and Z, and write 1 with a bottom bar. When I went to Japan, I found that a lot of people were disturbed by those "European" variants.

Re: Berkeley Mono Typeface

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Post by mdekkers »

jen729w wrote: post #40
StevePerkins wrote: post #12

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$75 license. I assume they want people to be wow'ed by the unrealistic zoom shots, and pay money before realizing that it's little different from JetBrains Mono or Roboto Mono in a real-world editor or terminal.

Downvote me for your life here, I don’t care. This sort of comment is why I have a love/hate relationship with HN. Love, because yesterday I learned some amazing stuff that I told my partner about in bed. Hate, because of the assumptions that so many people are so quick to jump to. You know nothing about this guy’s motivations. (His name’s Neil. I’ve spoken to him. He seems like a really solid dude. He probably has t…

Coincidentally I read a comment today along the lines of “at HN, Cynicism-is-Intelligence” which really hit the nail on the head for me. This isn’t at all a nice community, overall.
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