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TV: Now What?

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Re: TV: Now What?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Plex, Jellyfin, LibreELEC, Kodi... those are the best solutions for those wanting to manage their own destiny and TV experience. As long as one produces their own content, right?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn’t it been found (In the US) that making a digital copy of a DVD you own totally okay?

Correct. Personal archival is protected under fair use. [1]

1. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/10/28/2021-23...

Re: TV: Now What?

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post #9
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Plex, Jellyfin, LibreELEC, Kodi... those are the best solutions for those wanting to manage their own destiny and TV experience. As long as one produces their own content, right?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn’t it been found (In the US) that making a digital copy of a DVD you own totally okay?

Correct (as long as you don't distribute it), but not all content is available on DVDs, and many things come to DVDs much later than they are available elsewhere.

That said, there is a _less legal_ solution to those problems...

Re: TV: Now What?

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The pendulum swings back to server-side.

The thing is I'm not sure that people in general have a lot of issue with client-side fragmentation. It's more the content silos on the server side. But then people didn't like cable bundles either.

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Plex, Jellyfin, LibreELEC, Kodi... those are the best solutions for those wanting to manage their own destiny and TV experience. You can run them on practically anything and there are Tiny PCs, stick-form-factor Raspberry Pi devices (like CM4 TV Stick), and other silent small boxes you can attach to a TV for a thin client interface or just a shared media library / TV experience. It'd be nice if Amazon, Apple, Netflix…

> Plex, Jellyfin, LibreELEC, Kodi... those are the best solutions for those wanting to manage their own destiny and TV experience. As long as one produces their own content, right?

Those all have apps for Netflix and others, as well as video on demand.

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The fragmentation is both a flaw and a feature. It means we have diversity in media vendors, at the cost of a pretty high cognitive load to just watch something… which app is it on? What’s the account login? Search the device main search, then go to each app and do its own individual search. All while dodging ads and autoplay and “what’s new” and “for you.”

It sucks for users. But it also sucks for developers, who have to maintain multiple apps for multiple platforms, even multiple generations per platform. And this affects users too, when a version of an app eventually gets dropped because the developer decides it’s too costly to maintain.

The diversity and competition is good, but there’s got to be a better way. The AppleTV platform makes some effort to bridge the gaps, but apps have to play along, and many decide to roll their own instead of using the provided APIs, complaining about the APIs not letting them do what they want to do the way they want to do it. To which I say, getting all these apps to do something in a consistent way is the point.

But whatever. I’m in no hurry to go back to huge cable bills. We told the industry to get on board with streaming if they don’t want piracy, and they did, so now here we are. Instead of digging through BitTorrent and newsgroups, we are juggling apps. ¯\_(°_o)_/¯

Re: TV: Now What?

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Plex, Jellyfin, LibreELEC, Kodi... those are the best solutions for those wanting to manage their own destiny and TV experience. You can run them on practically anything and there are Tiny PCs, stick-form-factor Raspberry Pi devices (like CM4 TV Stick), and other silent small boxes you can attach to a TV for a thin client interface or just a shared media library / TV experience. It'd be nice if Amazon, Apple, Netflix…

> Plex, Jellyfin, LibreELEC, Kodi... those are the best solutions for those wanting to manage their own destiny and TV experience. As long as one produces their own content, right?

what do you think

Re: TV: Now What?

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Server-driven UI is a thing that's been gaining traction in recent years.

To my knowledge, at least a few FAANG companies have adopted this for the reasons mentioned in the article (AirBnB, Lyft, Expedia)

https://github.com/csmets/Server-Driven-UI

There are a few frameworks that cater to this -- most of them are variations on an API that returns JSON describing view components and state/actions.

For instance, DivKit:

- https://github.com/divkit/divkit

- https://divkit.tech/playground

It's a decent idea IMO, though I have no personal experience with it. I guess time will tell whether it catches on at-large though.

Re: TV: Now What?

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> Roku uses a proprietary language and UI toolkit I thought Roku was originally based on Silverlight, but I may be misremembering. I can't find any source to validate that. But Roku still quietly has the biggest market share in this space.

Brightscript is the name of their application language. Sounds similar enough to Silverlight to me. I bet it’s just a mix-up.

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The fragmentation is both a flaw and a feature. It means we have diversity in media vendors, at the cost of a pretty high cognitive load to just watch something… which app is it on? What’s the account login? Search the device main search, then go to each app and do its own individual search. All while dodging ads and autoplay and “what’s new” and “for you.” It sucks for users. But it also sucks for developers, who ha…

“Huge cable bills” - we’re already back there. Netflix is $23, Apple TV just increased to $10c Disney+ is now $14, Hulu is $20, Max is $16, Paramount is $10, Peacock is $6.

You can easily spend $100 /mn on streaming services.

Re: TV: Now What?

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The fragmentation is both a flaw and a feature. It means we have diversity in media vendors, at the cost of a pretty high cognitive load to just watch something… which app is it on? What’s the account login? Search the device main search, then go to each app and do its own individual search. All while dodging ads and autoplay and “what’s new” and “for you.” It sucks for users. But it also sucks for developers, who ha…

“Huge cable bills” - we’re already back there. Netflix is $23, Apple TV just increased to $10c Disney+ is now $14, Hulu is $20, Max is $16, Paramount is $10, Peacock is $6. You can easily spend $100 /mn on streaming services.

Prices have been creeping up (and Netflix is the worst offender). But, if you can live without live TV and can do without that one show on such and such a service, it's still a pretty good deal relative to the cable TV bundle especially if you also had one or two premium stations/streaming services like HBO.
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