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Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by pooriaazimi » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:08 PM UTC

As an aside, Peepcode has a 3 part video tutorial on Backbone.js, which is exceptionally great (more than 3 hours, but it's really condensed and it took me 2 days to completely digest it). Each episode is $12; a little expensive at first sight, but really worths it.

https://peepcode.com/products/backbone-js

https://peepcode.com/products/backbone-ii

https://peepcode.com/products/backbone-iii

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by pooriaazimi » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:10 PM UTC

ldvldv wrote: post #8

Is there a PDF version somewhere?

(it's really not an answer, but just in case you haven't seen it already, here's an online version which is actually prettier than the epub one: http://addyosmani.github.com/backbone-fundamentals )

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by webista » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:11 PM UTC

mike-cardwell wrote: post #9

I was thinking of learning Backbone soon until I read about Meteor yesterday. Is there any point in learning Backbone, or should I just go the Meteor route?

Backbone is almost at the top of the javascript toolkit levels. Let's put it in perspective: - backbone - jquery - meteor by jguimont

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by tibbon » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:15 PM UTC

oscardelben wrote: post #5

> You're over the rate limit. Serve this file from your own servers. Contact support@github.com if you have questions. If you get that error just get it from the main repo https://github.com/addyosmani/backbone-fundamentals/

And if you still hit an error, just git clone it :)

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by knowtheory » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:17 PM UTC

mike-cardwell wrote: post #9

I was thinking of learning Backbone soon until I read about Meteor yesterday. Is there any point in learning Backbone, or should I just go the Meteor route?

Your question strikes me as an odd one. Meteor just came out. I'm not sure that there are any folks who have built any substantial systems using Meteor yet (aside from it's authors) who would be able to give you a firm recommendation.

That said, Meteor and Backbone do different things. Meteor is an attempt to solve (obviate, really) the mismatch between client/server development. To what extent it does this in a reasonable fashion is yet to be fully explored (although it does look awesome!)

Backbone is a client-side JS application toolkit. It's purpose is to bundle up the things that are common to every JS application, and provide a solid API to hook your application code to, and to hook your app to your RESTful server API. That said, Backbone offers more than just a convention for how your JS app talks to your API.

You will note that Backbone is included in the default set of installable Meteor packages.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by Bobby_Tables » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:37 PM UTC

mike-cardwell wrote: post #9

I was thinking of learning Backbone soon until I read about Meteor yesterday. Is there any point in learning Backbone, or should I just go the Meteor route?

I'm in the process of learning Backbone and just read about Meteor, so I might be completely wrong on this. But it seems like Backbone and Meteor are trying to solve different problems, and aren't mutually exclusive. Backbone is server-agnostic, and Meteor is somewhat client-agnostic, so you could use Meteor to do the data synchronization and automatic updating, while structuring your client app using Backbone.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by mike-cardwell » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:40 PM UTC

Bobby_Tables wrote: post #16

mike-cardwell wrote: post #9

I was thinking of learning Backbone soon until I read about Meteor yesterday. Is there any point in learning Backbone, or should I just go the Meteor route?

I'm in the process of learning Backbone and just read about Meteor, so I might be completely wrong on this. But it seems like Backbone and Meteor are trying to solve different problems, and aren't mutually exclusive. Backbone is server-agnostic, and Meteor is somewhat client-agnostic, so you could use Meteor to do the data synchronization and automatic updating, while structuring your client app using Backbone.

I see. I knew they were different but I thought there was considerable overlap in what they did.

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by chris_wot » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:49 PM UTC

It says that the account is over it's rate limit. Can someone from Github sort this out?

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by chops » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:55 PM UTC

tibbon wrote: post #14

oscardelben wrote: post #5

> You're over the rate limit. Serve this file from your own servers. Contact support@github.com if you have questions. If you get that error just get it from the main repo https://github.com/addyosmani/backbone-fundamentals/

And if you still hit an error, just git clone it :)

Easy mode quick clone:

  git clone https://github.com/addyosmani/backbone-fundamentals.git

Re: Backbone.js Fundamentals

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Post by obtu » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 1:58 PM UTC

danbee wrote: post #7

iBooks shows me an error on the 2nd page: "This page contains the following errors: error on line 649 at column 295: Opening and ending tag mismatch: cpde line 0 and p Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error."

Here is epubcheck if that helps anyone: https://code.google.com/p/epubcheck/

Seems to be a typo in index.md, and a bug in Pandoc which lets non-well-formed xml tags pass through unquoted.