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Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by anonymous_sorry »

Clamchop wrote: post #173
throwaway4aday wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adapting effectively and quickly is kind of our thing, also backed by millions of years of evolution.

You're being a little flip but adapting to one thing usually comes with compromising something else. Hanks is just an example of trusting a leader or authority. Whether you think he's a good fit for that is immaterial, everyone will be compromised. Asking for critical thinking is all well and good but just the _knowledge_ that it's easy to generate gobs of high-fidelity forgeries, all corroborating each other as fals…

Perhaps we need to build out a way for clients to be able to trust content. Not signed with Hanks' public key, or the key of a reputable news source? The client, my tv, or whatever, should make that obvious somehow. The industry certainly spends plenty of effort developing ways for content producers to trust clients.

But I'm probably just another tech bro suggesting a technological solution to a social problem.

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Post by sangnoir »

alpaca128 wrote: post #68
dataangel wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I suspect 3 seconds is often enough. It's not learning how you pronounce each word, it's seeing some pronunciations you use and from that guessing how you would pronounce other things based on how those pronunciations are clustered in its training data. In other words if in that 3 seconds it hears you say y'all it has a pretty good shot at inferring how you say a lot of other things.

People speak differently in different situations, based on their mood and who they are talking to. They may change their voice when quoting another person, they may alter their accent if talking to a stranger, and there's many other details you don't even think about because you're used to them but it'll immediately sound wrong if it's not replicated correctly. Apple's announced voice imitation feature requires a 15…

> even with those you can tell within seconds that it's fake, even if you don't know how you noticed it.

Salesmen and scammers have many techniques to get people to act against their better judgement. Urgency is one: imagine a late night voice call seemingly from a loved one saying "I'm stranded, my battery is about to die. Please send the money now -" accompanied by loud environmental noises to mask any artifacts

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by totallywrong »

grej wrote: post #130

When I call my bank, they use a "voiceprint identification" that requires me to say a sentence and then matches that to my voiceprint. I am wondering if that is a massive security hole.

I'd readily switch to another bank.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by totallywrong »

Ajay-p wrote: post #38

This was fantastic but I understand that Mr. Attenborough would be upset. I would hope that one day my life will be narrated by George Guidall.

I'm sure Sir David would have a good laugh. People getting upset for this makes no sense.

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Post by cyanydeez »

throwaway4aday wrote: post #82
mechhacker wrote: post #56

When I see a lot of this voice replication I am reminded of something. (Dune series spoiler) For example, Duncan Idaho keeps being brought back with cloning tech, over and over, for centuries, because Leto II just likes him. Over and over, the same man keeps being put by the (nearly) immortal emperor's side... I ask: are we stuck as a monoculture, not making new, interesting things, but simply replicating older ones?…

On the short term, yes. On the longer term (probably only a year or two at this rate) no because these models also allow you to generate entirely new voices. We'll likely see features like describing the voice you want with a prompt and getting several to choose from, remixing existing voices, combining voices and creating voices that are impossible for any human to have. The introduction of other forms of recording…

they're on the what, 56th marvel movie?

novelty seems to be entirely about consumptive selection. humans crave familiarity.

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Post by 3seashells »

throwaway4aday wrote: post #82
mechhacker wrote: post #56

When I see a lot of this voice replication I am reminded of something. (Dune series spoiler) For example, Duncan Idaho keeps being brought back with cloning tech, over and over, for centuries, because Leto II just likes him. Over and over, the same man keeps being put by the (nearly) immortal emperor's side... I ask: are we stuck as a monoculture, not making new, interesting things, but simply replicating older ones?…

On the short term, yes. On the longer term (probably only a year or two at this rate) no because these models also allow you to generate entirely new voices. We'll likely see features like describing the voice you want with a prompt and getting several to choose from, remixing existing voices, combining voices and creating voices that are impossible for any human to have. The introduction of other forms of recording…

We are moving towards the ultimate bass dad voice generator?

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Post by 3seashells »

galdosdi wrote: post #66
mechhacker wrote: post #56

When I see a lot of this voice replication I am reminded of something. (Dune series spoiler) For example, Duncan Idaho keeps being brought back with cloning tech, over and over, for centuries, because Leto II just likes him. Over and over, the same man keeps being put by the (nearly) immortal emperor's side... I ask: are we stuck as a monoculture, not making new, interesting things, but simply replicating older ones?…

This reminds me of something I noticed: disproportionately, the classics in a given field (ie, the work agreed upon to be particularly important, influential, etc) are disproportionately the ones that were made shortly after a new medium or technique was invented. For example, It's almost as if we default to tending towards imitation and recycling, and only each time a totally new technology changes what is possible…

Generations move on.. All familiar things are eaten by time, so it's familiar things in media from youth that provides an anchor. The city you grew up on is gone except for a few landmarks. There are always artist artists who experiment but that's not mainstream taste

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Post by jpc0 »

Arialonomus wrote: post #42
losvedir wrote: post #35

Someone at work shared this and I thought it was hilarious and awesome. A number of other people found it disrespectful or gross. I'm sort of fascinated at the values divide. I can see why SAG/ASTRA, or voice actors, aren't going to like this technology, but it doesn't feel all that different to any other industry swept away by tech, whether that's farming, horses and carriages, mining, etc. In other words, I can see…

I think, as often, the truth lies down the middle. SAG/AFTRA and the WGA were right in fighting to not give studios free rein to use AI to own their likeness or replace them in the process. Likewise, people who say using AI tech for lighthearted fun like this is “disrespectful” are just having a kneejerk reaction at this point. I struggle to see a how this is different from say, a song parody.

Your entire friends group is sharing a really funny video with your voice reciting something, some manager get's upset about it and you have to explain to management how you had nothing to do with it.

Even if you are fine with it, not everyone will be.

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Post by autoexec »

cyanydeez wrote: post #185
throwaway4aday wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the short term, yes. On the longer term (probably only a year or two at this rate) no because these models also allow you to generate entirely new voices. We'll likely see features like describing the voice you want with a prompt and getting several to choose from, remixing existing voices, combining voices and creating voices that are impossible for any human to have. The introduction of other forms of recording…

they're on the what, 56th marvel movie? novelty seems to be entirely about consumptive selection. humans crave familiarity.

Humans crave familiarity a lot more when times are difficult and uncertain but at other times they crave novelty. We'll always have some of both.

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Post by Paul-Craft »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #100
galdosdi wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's exactly some of the time periods I was thinking of. The mid 1800s was a time when literacy was rapidly increasing and new serial magazines became popular. This new medium paved the way for the fame of authors like Dickens and Bronte, the sort you may be thinking of.

This only works if you compress the entire 19th century into a single point. Otherwise you have, eg Sense and Sensibility from 1811 vs Heart of Darkness from 1899. If anything this claim merely shows the effect of “time compression” in which distant events feel like they happened around the same time.

Not to mention Frankenstein and Journey to the Center of the Earth, both of which are science fiction classics. And then, of course, you leave out the entirety of 20th century science fiction.
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