500px Terms of Service

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Post by DanielRibeiro » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 7:10 AM UTC

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Post by theunixbeard » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 8:51 AM UTC

TL;DR TOS are quite refreshing! Of course I'd be interested to hear if this opens them up to any liability due to the summaries inherent imprecision... Can any lawyers chime in on this?

Re: 500px Terms of Service

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Post by one-man-bucket » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:00 AM UTC

Planet Money did an episode on why TOS and EULA's aren't human (as opposed to lawyer) readable.

Here's a link to the episode: http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/04/21/134633336/why-are-...

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Post by yurifury » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:01 AM UTC

Their privacy policy is also very readable.

http://500px.com/privacy

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Post by clemesha » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:03 AM UTC

Breath of fresh air. I've never seen a ToS like this before.

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Post by pestaa » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:08 AM UTC

First I thought this is a template other services could copy and put up on their site.

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Post by steren » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:08 AM UTC

This reminds me the "Privacy icons" project. Aza raskin wrote about it : http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/privacy-icons/

Basically, next to the terms of use, easily identifiable icons are displayed. Something like Creative Commons did for licenses.

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Post by CharlieA » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:09 AM UTC

This is brilliant. It's always seemed crazy to me that terms, laws, and especially contracts are written in legalese that only a trained lawyer could really understand, and yet all lay-people are expected to adhere to the nuances of these rules.

Obviously that simplicity isn't sufficient alone, or we'd just have one law "Be Good" (even that needs 'good' to be defined properly) -- but having a summary like this next to the specific details, in "lay-galese" if you will, it seems like this should be the standard way to write all legal documents.

I hope it doesn't open them up to liability due to the interpretations of the summary, though?

Re: 500px Terms of Service

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Post by pestaa » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:11 AM UTC

theunixbeard wrote: post #2

TL;DR TOS are quite refreshing! Of course I'd be interested to hear if this opens them up to any liability due to the summaries inherent imprecision... Can any lawyers chime in on this?

I'm far from being a lawyer, but I think their back is covered since the full license is next to it. CreativeCommons does the same[1]:

    Think of the Commons Deed as a user-friendly interface to
    the Legal Code beneath, although the Deed itself is not a 
    license, and its contents are not part of the Legal Code 
    itself.

[1]: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/

Re: 500px Terms of Service

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Post by dzorz » Thu, Apr 12, 2012, 9:16 AM UTC

> approximately 60Gb of storage

Is that Gb or GB?