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There's a prediction market here about why he was fired: https://manifold.markets/sophiawisdom/why-was-sam-altman-fir...

That list of reasons is a mess with tons that overlap. Sexual misconduct is there like three different ways, plus one that’s explicitly abuse of his sister.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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I have a theory. Ilya has always seemed like he was idealistic and I’m guessing that he was the reason for OpenAI’s very strange structure. Ilya is the man when it comes to AI so people put up with his foolishness. Adam D'Angelo is, like Ilya, an amazing computer science talent who may have shared Ilya’s idealistic notions (in particular OpenAI is non-profit, unless forced to be capped profit and is categorically not…

Here's a counter-proposal: If you think about it, can't this change actually benefit Microsoft? Sam has an extremely sharp product mind; ChatGPT was his baby, everything from DevDays, the LLM app store; OpenAI was building a product suite that people liked, and in doing so they were undeniably slowing down their ability to iterate into better models and closer to AGI. Microsoft doesn't need OpenAI to build products. They're already doing that, and OpenAI was directly competing with their deployments of OpenAI's technology.

Microsoft needs OpenAI to make fundamental breakthroughs; that's the thing Microsoft spent money on, the technology. Their 49% investment probably won't directly pay off anyway, what with all the layers of corporate governance OpenAI has in place.

I don't want to go so far as to say that it was some grand conspiracy orchestrated by Satya and Ilya in a dark room one night, but their interests are pretty aligned; and that clip that keeps getting shared with Sam asking Satya on stage about their relationship with OpenAI, and Satya dry-laughing and failing to answer for a few seconds... why did Sam ask that? Its a really strange thing to ask on a stage like this. Why did Satya laugh, and take so long to answer? Just weird.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Greg just quit too: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559

This is perfect for Google. When your enemy (OpenAI) is making a massive mistake, don't interrupt them.

You're not wrong. Bard is lagging bad. Depending on how much of a shit show this becomes it may present a catch-up opportunity.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2]

"In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.”

Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Brockman. Mr. Brockman said that even though he was the chairman of the board, he was not part of this board meeting.

He said that the board informed him of Mr. Altman’s ouster minutes later. Around the same time, the board published a blog post."

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/openai-sam-alt...

[2] https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Ilya booted him https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725702501435941294

Today’s lesson, keep multiple board seats

None of the tech giants would be where they are today if they didn't ram through unique versions of control

Their boards or shareholders would have ousted every FAANG CEO at less palatable parts of the journey

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Greg just quit too: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559

Do these people type all lowercase on purpose? Is it a power move/status thing? I'd have to go out of my way to type like that, on mobile or at a workstation.

I do it from time to time and I feel like it's a mix of several things (1) it's counter culture, (2) it's early internet culture, (3) aesthetic/uniformity, (4) laziness, (5) carelessness, (6) a power move, (7) "hyper rationality".

And all of these contribute to it being a power move.

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