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Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity." Scoop: theinformation.com https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

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post #34

Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity." Scoop: theinformation.com https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.

It was actually a great move. Unusual, but it goes with the mission and nonprofit idea. I think it was designed to draw attention and stir controversy on purpose.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

#83
This is genuinely frustrating.

IF the stories are to be believed so far, the board of OpenAI, perhaps one of the most important tech companies in the world right now, was full of people who are openly hostile to the existence of the company.

I don't want AI safety. The people talking about this stuff like it's a terminator movie are nuts.

Strongly believe that this will be a lot like facebook/oculus ousting Palmer Lucky due to his "dangerous" completely mainstream political views shared by half of the country. Palmer, of course, went on to start a company (anduril), which has a much more powerful and direct ability to enact his political will.

SamA isn't going to leave oAI and like...retire. He's the golden boy of golden boys right now. Every company with an interest in AI is I'm sure currently scrambling to figure out how to load a dump truck full of cash and H200s to bribe him to work with them.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity." Scoop: theinformation.com https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

No one in this company is "consistently candid" about anything.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

#85
As far as I can tell, it eventually boils down to this: Ilya is jealous. After all Sam took all the spot lights away from him who actually made the model behind OpenAI.

It's human nature. OpenAI can continue without Sam, but not without Ilya for the moment. On the other hand, Sam could have been a little more "humble".

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

#86
post #34

Sutskever: "You can call it (a coup), and I can understand why you chose this word, but I disagree with this. This was the board doing its duty to the mission of the nonprofit, which is to make sure that OpenAI builds AGI that benefits all of humanity." Scoop: theinformation.com https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1725707548106580255

Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.

If you know anything about Ilya, it's definitely not out of character.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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post #20

Ousting sama and gdb over something as petty as a simple strategy disagreement is totally unprofessional. sama got accused of serious misconduct. Even if he was too eager to commercialize OpenAIs tech that doesn't come close to justifying this circus act.

Don’t you think it’s more likely you don’t know the whole story yet?

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very unprofessional way to approach this disagreement.

When two people have different ideologies and neither is willing to backdown or compromise, one person must "go".

There’s no indication that any sort of discussion took place. Major stakeholders like Microsoft appear uninformed.

Re: Ilya Sutskever "at the center" of Altman firing?

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When two people have different ideologies and neither is willing to backdown or compromise, one person must "go".

Or you introduce an authoritative third party that mediates their interactions. This feels like it wouldn't be a problem if so many high-ranking employees didn't feel so radically different about the same technology.

Altman’s job was to be a go between for the business and engineering sides of the house. If the chief engineer who was driving the company wasn’t going to communicate with him anymore, then he wouldn’t serve much of a purpose.
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