Maybe something to do with this?
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...
Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
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Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
wait...isn't "the decision" referred to in the parent comment about the removal of Altman?
Greg's removal was announced in the same press release as Altman's
ah ok. I thought the board decided to remove Altman, then Brockman quit in response, so there was no deliberation about his (Brockman's) removal.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what I thought. OpenAI's statement implies he was aware of the demotion... but his statement seems to imply he wasn't. I guess the most likely situation is that they put out the press release, told him (or vice versa) and it took him a bit to decide to quit.
> OpenAI's statement implies he was aware of the demotion. Maybe my experience with corporate communications is different, but all it implies to me is that he was not removed as President and was being permitted to stay on under the new CEO.
>As a part of this transition, Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman of the board and will remain in his role at the company, reporting to the CEO.
Its totally fair (your interpretation) to think that. He was removed as chairman though, which IMO is a demotion. I think its disingenuous on the part of OpenAI _unless_ originally Greg said he was ok with the new terms. If a company says "Person X will remain as President and report to the CEO" you would think they have worked it out with person X _before_ announcing it.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#184Has the same lack of capitalisation as Sam Altman's message, wonder why
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Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#185This is turning into a situation that OpenAI may not be able to recover from. Typically if the CEO and Chair of the board depart under these circumstances there was something illegal happening.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#186Maybe something to do with this? https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...
That is very old for it to cause a reaction like this now.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
We don't really know anything about the internal finances at this point. The product is solid but who knows how fucked up things are. Maybe they were on track to run out of money. GPU compute ain't cheap.
None of that can be a reason for a step like this. OpenAI can easily charge much more for their products, and there is a market for even extremely high prices (even if not as big) and given this is a non profit, it doesn't even need to make billions of dollars in money.
OpenAI exists both as a nonprofit and, for several years now, as a for-profit company [1] that has taken billions of dollars in investment. It needs to make billions of dollars to return to investors just as much as any other for-profit company does.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#188I found the lack of information of the CTO and certain board members disturbing.
Like, who is Mira Murati? We only now that she came from Albania (one of the poorest countries) and somehow got into some pretty good private schools, and then to pretty good companies. Who are her parents? What kind of connections does she pull?
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#189I think I see it now. Speculation following: They achieved AGI internally, but didn't want OpenAI to have it. All the important people will move to another company, following Sam, and OpenAI is left with nothing more than a rotting GPT. They planned all this from the start, which is why Sam didn't care about equity or long-term finances. They spent all the money in this one-shot gamble to achieve AGI, which can be re…
I thought this was a joke and would end with "/s" and now I'm just left with mouth slightly agape, completely in awe.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#190I think I see it now. Speculation following: They achieved AGI internally, but didn't want OpenAI to have it. All the important people will move to another company, following Sam, and OpenAI is left with nothing more than a rotting GPT. They planned all this from the start, which is why Sam didn't care about equity or long-term finances. They spent all the money in this one-shot gamble to achieve AGI, which can be re…
This is certainly a take, but MSFT would probably sue the hell out of them if they tried to do this.
US patent lawyers can’t touch China mainland.