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Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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the theory that Altman did something in bad faith means that it might not be a disagreement but it's something that forced Sutskever to vote against Sam

The theory is Altman gave his eye scanning crypto company early access to openAI tech without telling anyone and what ensued is just FAFO in action.

That’s not big enough to immediately terminate him.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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I think I see it now. Speculation following: They achieved AGI internally, but didn't want OpenAI to have it. All the important people will move to another company, following Sam, and OpenAI is left with nothing more than a rotting GPT. They planned all this from the start, which is why Sam didn't care about equity or long-term finances. They spent all the money in this one-shot gamble to achieve AGI, which can be re…

This is certainly a take, but MSFT would probably sue the hell out of them if they tried to do this.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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wait...isn't "the decision" referred to in the parent comment about the removal of Altman?

He was renoved as Chairman at the same time (close enough that they were announced together, and presumably linked in cause, though possibly a separate vote) as Altman was removed as CEO.

ah ok makes sense. I thought he just resigned in response to Altman's ouster, so there was no board decision to remove Brockman.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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He was chairman of the board, no? surely he was in the meeting? More likely it's some kind of schism and he was on Sam's side.

Just guessing here, but I think the board can form a quorum without the chair, and vote, and as long as they have a majority, i think they can proceed with a press release based on their vote.

It varies by jurisdiction and board rules, but this is a common setup and a very reasonable guess.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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The board does and they are not supposed to have a financial stake in the non-profit. Usually they just vote their friends on. Welcome to the loony tunes that is nonprofit management. Clearly Microsoft staked its whole product roadmap on 4 random people with no financial skin in the game.

That does sound like loony tunes. If the board elects itself then I think it is a very very bad arrangement for something as important as OpenAI.

That is one problem with non-profits. They end up with completely unprofessional leadership because they hire their friends who are crazies just like themselves.

When things cool down in a few months we will learn Altman and Brockman were some of the few sane people on the board.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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post #168

I think I see it now. Speculation following: They achieved AGI internally, but didn't want OpenAI to have it. All the important people will move to another company, following Sam, and OpenAI is left with nothing more than a rotting GPT. They planned all this from the start, which is why Sam didn't care about equity or long-term finances. They spent all the money in this one-shot gamble to achieve AGI, which can be re…

No I don’t think that’s what happened at all. Also memorizing code and rewriting it is very much IP theft.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Are we going to start speculating about insane conspiracy theories now?

That doesn't seem insane to me in this case. OpenAI is easily the most important non profit for any Government in the whole world.

Governments will have their own black-budget private LLM networks, they don't need OpenAI. The NSA probably has a whole cluster of them in its data center in Utah, trained on every public and private communication they've slurped up over the years, likely a generation or two ahead of what's available to the public.
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