What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
Why do they have to benefit the employer?
Swedish dockworkers are refusing to unload Teslas at ports in broad boycott move
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#12What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
Generally there have been quite few major labor conflicts in Sweden because when you have signed a collective bargaining agreement the unions can only strike to enforce it.
Also turns out that an organized instead of vulnerable and exploited workforce is quite productive
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#13What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
I'm actually curious about how the union would benefit these mechanics. How is their current treatment by Tesla deemed inadequate?
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#14What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
In the long term, unions (and pro-society policies in general) benefit the employer by ensuring a cybernetically stable supply of labor.
Most employers obviously aren't thinking that far ahead, though. They would rather cut corners (import cheap labor), and then be surprised when there are systemic failures in their labor supply.
We're gradually seeing that hit in America as the global USD goes under, the well-endowed Boomers retire, and USA is a less appealing immigration destination.
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#15Sweden GDP is roughly equal to Tesla market cap. It's a fair fight.
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#16Important context which I could not find mentioned in TFA: A key reason for the sympathy strikes is that Tesla brought in scabs which is a big no-no in Scandinavian labor markets.
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#17What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
Before unions, people would drag a bad enough employer into the street and beat them to death.
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#18Sickos. Too bad sympathy strikes are illegal in the US.
Illegal or just fireable? It’s freedom of expression and gather. Also, can’t fire everyone if they all work together. The air traffic controllers where left put to dry by every other union and Regan had the military to fill in.
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#19What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
Sadly, HN isn't a place to ask questions about second-order effects in politics anymore. Unions are basically legal cartels / mafias, and people will honestly think there are no effects on labour markets, prices or employment and everything is pure upside, wealth generated out of thin air.
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#20What's the argument for how unions benefit both parties? What do unions do to benefit the employer?
I'm actually curious about how the union would benefit these mechanics. How is their current treatment by Tesla deemed inadequate?
The workers want it. Their laws say they have a right to it.
There's no arguing past that.
Let me ask you a question: why do you deserve any respect ? I'm just curious.
I'm not seriously asking, just showing you how your question is bullshit.