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Post by philwelch »

mrweasel wrote: post #224
fbdab103 wrote: post #139

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I am upset she put in all that effort and did not stain the wood.

That might be because she's Swedish. As a Scandinavian it's always a bit weird seeing Americans staining wood, it's not really something you'd do, unless you're trying to make it lighter. Americans, and the British, loves staining wood, making it darker. That's kinda the opposite of what you do in Scandinavia. You keep everything light, bright and natural (if possible, pine has a tendency to yellow and that not reall…

Don’t you need to finish the wood somehow in order to protect it from random stains?

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by DamnInteresting »

lopis wrote: post #251
Timshel wrote: post #216

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Funnily you can see some coat hingers prototype at the end of the video :).

And while showing that, she says "I promise the next video won't take 3 months to make". 3 Years late: > I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger

Looking at her video list, she released 20 videos between the bed video and this hanger video. This one -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYqz1F6eAVU <- came out about 2 weeks after the bed video. So, she very much kept her promise. Just sayin.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by avar »

mrweasel wrote: post #224
fbdab103 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am upset she put in all that effort and did not stain the wood.

That might be because she's Swedish. As a Scandinavian it's always a bit weird seeing Americans staining wood, it's not really something you'd do, unless you're trying to make it lighter. Americans, and the British, loves staining wood, making it darker. That's kinda the opposite of what you do in Scandinavia. You keep everything light, bright and natural (if possible, pine has a tendency to yellow and that not reall…

It's not because they love staining wood, it's because the predominant species of trees in those areas are those that take better to staining.

In Scandinavia you'll get a lot of it pine, which is one of the types of wood which typically doesn't need staining, especially for indoor applications.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by Damogran6 »

beAbU wrote: post #136
Zanni wrote: post #63

I came across the Kickstarter [1] for this as a Facebook ad and passed over it for all the reasons folks are citing below. Folding hanger? What's the use case? But watching the video, she's really put a lot of thought into this. The system with the paired rod is pretty slick. I love the notches for keeping the hangers spaced. This solves a problem not everyone has (not me, for instance--I have full-size closets), but…

Worth noting this is Simone Giertz, she's a very popular maker on the internet, and her youtube channel has over 2M subscribers. A lot of her funding on KS is porbably based on that alone. It is a cool design, but 3 years? She definitely worked on other projects in that time. Ultimately the volume taken up by the clothes is the same, you either have a shallow but wide closet, or deep but narrow. If you are not worrie…

I marvel at the pedantry on HN sometimes...the 3 year comment is the thing you're locking on?

You can only mention the period of time something was developed if NOTHING else occurs at the same time? You can't multitask? Eat? Sleep? Use the restroom?

It took 3 years from the first thought to the start of the marketing campaign. So what?

She's moderately successful and a neat person, don't inject negativity into what is becoming less and less common on the internet, and what used to make it great.

My though was that, for being known for shitty robots, Simone came up with something that really wasn't shitty at all.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by testmasterflex »

jot wrote: post #254
konschubert wrote: post #223

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I think the best ideas come when you make something that you really want for yourself. In 2020, I really wanted an eink calendar to hang on my wall. Still, many people built one for themselves and never turned it into a commercial product. It’s a lot of work and some of it is boring. And you have to pay for certification and worry about all that paperwork that comes with a business. It took me 3 years: https://shop.i…

I am so happy to have discovered this here. I've wanted this product for years. I just placed an order for the coworking space I run in Brighton, UK. Super excited about all the potential applications of this. The simplicity of the developer experience [1] is exactly what I want. Seems like it will also work wonderfully with the screenshot api [2] I'm currently working at. [1]: https://www.invisible-computers.com/inv…

Nice design work on Urlbox

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Post by sumtechguy »

steamer25 wrote: post #406
sumtechguy wrote: post #324

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It is an interesting thing though. Why did the design lead too people leaving the cups behind? I get the hostile part as they do not want to clean up other peoples trash. It is something I think about a lot on the way to work. I see gum on the ground. Not like one or two here and there but hundreds of little blobs on the sidewalk. What is causing people in these particular spots to leave their gum behind and then put…

Yep. The primary fault lies with the too-many people who abused the non-hostile system. "This is why we can't have nice things"--because trust is too costly in the societies where hostile architecture is prevalent.

I get that and agree. But why is the 'easy path' to leave the garbage even in conditions where there is a garbage can right there? Shame and motivation probably seem like the wrong tools here. It seems like something is lending it to us just not doing it the right way. It is like something in the architecture lends itself to people just ignoring the obvious way. My wife was telling me about a 'gum wall' at an amusement park. I immediately saw that as a way for the park to basically hack people to not throw their gum on the sidewalk. Basically a weird reward for keeping your gum and putting it on that wall. The architecture and mythos encouraged people to not do it.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by Vt71fcAqt7 »

Damogran6 wrote: post #425
beAbU wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting this is Simone Giertz, she's a very popular maker on the internet, and her youtube channel has over 2M subscribers. A lot of her funding on KS is porbably based on that alone. It is a cool design, but 3 years? She definitely worked on other projects in that time. Ultimately the volume taken up by the clothes is the same, you either have a shallow but wide closet, or deep but narrow. If you are not worrie…

I marvel at the pedantry on HN sometimes...the 3 year comment is the thing you're locking on? You can only mention the period of time something was developed if NOTHING else occurs at the same time? You can't multitask? Eat? Sleep? Use the restroom? It took 3 years from the first thought to the start of the marketing campaign. So what? She's moderately successful and a neat person, don't inject negativity into what i…

>the 3 year comment is the thing you're locking on?

What do you mean by locking on?

>You can only mention the period of time something was developed if NOTHING else occurs at the same time?

I think "I worked on a coat hanger for 3 years would be more clear." "I spent 3 years" literaly means that three years were used (spent) on it. Also it being the title of the video implies that. Basically, in terms of the title of the video, which is supposed to tell you the main idea, from the fact that the title isn't "I developed a new coat hanger" but "I spent 3 years working on a new coathanger," one might think that the three years were literaly spent on the coathanger. Putting numbers in a video title genrally improves clickrate. Also the fact that it took 3 years is more of a shocking claim so that in itself improves the click rate, which is somewhat dimminished if she took a 1.5 year break in between or something. I havn't watched the video by the way so my thoughts are based only on what I think the title implies, which is anyway what the discussion at hand is. All this said I do think it is possible three year were spent (or spent to the maximum extent possible). Lead times can be long in manufacuring and it is possible to spend a year just on verification and testing. The past few years has also seen a lot of supply chain issues.

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Post by brettermeier »

georgesimon wrote: post #187

I was hoping this would be the coat hanger I have in my ideas bin for the last three years. I need a coat hanger that can be operated one-handed. (accessibility being invention's other mother) If her design could be easily folded with one hand, letting you insert it into the neck of a T-shirt, and then it automatically reopens by spring, I'd have comfy clothes.

> accessibility being invention's other mother

Nice quote, have to remember.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by brotchie »

jackdoe wrote: post #181

I just love the maker's mind. > I want something that does not exist, I will make it. Making things has never been so accessible, if you don't know how to start, join a community and ask, if they are hostile, just ask chatgpt and start from there. 3d printers are 200$, esp32 is the same cost as arduino nano. Want to make AI things? Make them. Want to make coat hangers? Make them. Want to make a book stand? Make it. I…

The state of off the shelf maker tools and parts is insane.

Recently built a custom LED controller based on a WT32 ETH01 (cheap, $8 on Aliexpress, ESP32 with an Ethernet port). I ended up building 3 revision, all in EasyEDA (Web-based EDA tool), which integrates directly into JLPCB (PCB manufacturer).

After submitting to JLPCB, they fabbed the PCBs, assembled them, and shipped them to West Coast USA in less than a week! For like an all-in cost of ~$10 per board, insane.

The esp-idf toolchain is amazing, and pretty well documented, with lots of concrete examples of getting peripherals up and running (SPI, Ethernet, TCP/IP stack).

Then I need custom enclosures, so got a Bambu Labs X1. Learning Fusion 360 was a bit of a lift, but a week later had a snap-fit, fully custom enclosure.

That combo of super easy, supplier integrated EDA, cheap and quick fab and assembly, good tools chains, and easy building of enclosures is night-and-day from doing hobby electronics back in early 2000s.

Choose a base ESP32 board, design and have a shield fabbed in a week, quickly code it up, done.

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