I recently tried Mikrok8s from Canonical and at idle (as in not running any of my containers) it ranges from 5% to 15%. I hope this product doesn't suffer the same wastage.
Canonical Launches MicroCloud to Deploy Your Own "Fully Functional Cloud"
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is where you run the cost calculations and decide if it is worth it or not. At the very first it can make zero sense to run in cloud. Then slightly in it becomes very worth it. Then later on that cost overhang becomes so big you are better off building your own. Where those boundaries are depends on your business.
I think the opposite, at the start it's a no-brainer. Setting up cloud infra for a simple website or web api is so so simple, and between free tiers and startup credits, costs $0.
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I have the strong impression that most people confound cloud to be public only. Private clouds are fine and deliver a lot of the flexibility at a big % discount of a public cloud. The big gain from clouds is the flexible infrastructure, especially in the microservices world we are now. In the past, one needed to procure, provision, etc a new server to run a service (times X per environment). With a cloud, regardless…
Currently watching a large enterprise migrate to cloud and hosted private cloud(I know) but all most teams are doing is a 1:1 mapping of VMs. I can see the cost going through the roof vs on prem. Give it another three years and and we'll be rolling back a significant % to on prem.
There might be a quiet betting pool on just how much more.
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#44> snap > Ubuntu Pro > driving […] subscription Think I’ll stick LXC on proxmox
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#45Supermicro has been selling Microclouds for years, and is a well known product line in the industry.
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#46At home I have a small server farm of cheap Ryzen PCs. Mostly continuous integration and testing for open source projects, but also some LLM. If I have some idea, I just throw it into farm and see results a few days later. It is slower than renting in cloud, bit about 4x cheaper. It also heats my house a bit in winter...
You must have cheap electricity where you live...
I'm in Germany, the country with the most expensive electricity prices - I'm paying 31cent/kWh at the moment. That's about the current market price for consumers - so that's 543,48€/year or 45€/month if that machine would suck 200W on average over the year.
If you are lucky have fiber at home - let's say another 50€/month and add 5€ for electricity for fiber and switches and stuff so you pay 100€/month for self-hosting at home.
Using the pricing of the big public clouds like Google, AWS, Azure you can stuff quite a bit of CPU and SSD's and HDD into that machine until you hit the 200W limit.
I just looked at Azure and took the cheapest instances for dev and compared the reserved price for one year (so already discounted)
Azure that gets me a whopping B4s v2 instance with 4 vcores and 16 GiB and no storage and no bandwidth.
Using Hetzner a cheap german dedicated server discounter you can rent a Intel Core i9-13900 with 64GB memory and 2 x 1.92TB SSD for 100€/month.
Realistically you would buy a Beelink SER6 Max Mini-PC, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS that idles probably around 15W and only pay 40€/year for that. It's 640€ new here and much faster than that Intel machine. You can almost buy two of these and still only pay 105€ a month and in the second year it's only 80€/year.
Of course there is no redudancy, no support, no flexibility your home ISP is probably overbooked and so on and so on - if you just a big machine somehwere that can fail but works most of the time it can be a cheaper alternative.
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#47This is going to be very uncomfortable when Supermicro sues Canonical over a trademarked term. Supermicro has been selling Microclouds for years, and is a well known product line in the industry.
Canonical is selling a piece of software, supermicro a line of servers.
And based on their own site it isn’t trademarked. Notice there’s no r next to the microcloud server but there is next to microblade.
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#48This was my take, FWIW. https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/16/canonical_microcloud/
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
You must have cheap electricity where you live...
Let's assume I have huge server at home with tons of disks that sucks on average 200W 24/7 - most machines idle around 10-50W depending on the periphials I'm in Germany, the country with the most expensive electricity prices - I'm paying 31cent/kWh at the moment. That's about the current market price for consumers - so that's 543,48€/year or 45€/month if that machine would suck 200W on average over the year. If you a…
"Most" is an exaggeration, but expensive is true: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
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#50So.. we’re back to self-hosting your own services? And IT does another cycle.