Three years on a clothes hanger design? She's paid to do this?!
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I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
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Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#402Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, this really shows that marketing is now the most crucial skill. It has become easy and affordable to design products, the process is now almost fully commodified with all those OEM and production services. The only thing that now stands between your idea and financial success is your ability to reach the target market, i.e. marketing. Also, such a slick KickStarter campaign typically costs $10k plus ad spend i…
Making a product, certifying it and making sure it’s safe is also hard. But marketing is extremely important and it’s just a very different skill than tech. I make these epaper calendar displays. https://shop.invisible-computers.com I have invested thousands of hours into making them as good as possible. You couldn’t tell from my website :D I would probably profit much more if I just stopped improving them and focuse…
Yes, your website has two user hostile features which immediately make me want to click away
1) Sending cookies to track me, and then a big lie about how you "value my privacy" while trying to track me and sell my data to your "partners"
" ► UpPromote Affiliate Marketing [Application] - Running..."
2) A cookie banner, which you completely ignore as you've already set 7 cookies before your javascript craps out ("TypeError: a.R is undefined"). At this point I haven't done a single thing on your page worthy of even a session cookie.
3) Once you "decline" your banner (which doesn't stop those cookies - including cookies you have set for 12 months in the future), you get a "chat" window with a red notification icon
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
> To me, this really shows that marketing is now the most crucial skill. It has become easy and affordable to design products, Um, did you see how many prototypes she went through? And also, 3 years - it's in the title. Designing products that kinda-sorta work might be easy and affordable. Designing products that work well and don't have annoying edge cases is still hard . Unless you think that Simone Giertz is unusu…
The sweat equity of 3 years and dozens of prototypes only contributes to 5% of the product's success. Marketing will drive 95% of the return.
Damn, with that kind of math, it almost doesn't seem worth investing the time and effort to ensure that the product works well!
I hope people who think like that are happy with their buggy-as-shit computer games on release day. Because they deserve to be.
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
Making a product, certifying it and making sure it’s safe is also hard. But marketing is extremely important and it’s just a very different skill than tech. I make these epaper calendar displays. https://shop.invisible-computers.com I have invested thousands of hours into making them as good as possible. You couldn’t tell from my website :D I would probably profit much more if I just stopped improving them and focuse…
Yes, your website has two user hostile features which immediately make me want to click away 1) Sending cookies to track me, and then a big lie about how you "value my privacy" while trying to track me and sell my data to your "partners" " ► UpPromote Affiliate Marketing [Application] - Running..." 2) A cookie banner, which you completely ignore as you've already set 7 cookies before your javascript craps out ("TypeE…
I think your complaints are valid. For starters, I turned off that affiliate marketing thing, I wasn't using that anyways.
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
The margins are likely not that great. Small run hardware manufacturing is extremely expensive. It's not until you are doing volumes in the millions, the factory has invested in custom tooling, and you're buying material by the truckload straight from the manufacturer that prices really start to collapse. Right now she is probably getting the steel off the shelf, the plastic pieces from a small shop, the forming from…
Wooden hangers retail for around €1 here, and it's ~2.5x cheaper if you look at AliExpress. Note that both are retail, the wholesale prices are probably half of that. €19 for a hanger is ridiculously expensive, even if they're individually hand made. Granted it includes shipping, but even if shipping is 50% of the cost, it's still absurdly expensive. She mentions in the video that the plastic pieces are injection mou…
> €19 for a hanger is ridiculously expensive
€19 for a hanger is the wrong way to look at this. There's no useful application where you'd buy a single hanger. This appears to simply be a way to provide people that want to toss €19 of support to someone they like doing something cool a little something in return.
The 12 hanger package is $75, which makes the per-hanger cost of $6.25 still a bit high, but well within an order of magnitude of other high-end products in the category.
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
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> idea of making top surfaces slanted in public spaces to keep people from placing empty drinking cups and such on top of them That's a low-key example of hostile architecture , isn't it? Other than preventing people from leaving cups around, this decreases the utility of public space. Everyone sometimes finds themselves suddenly needing a flat surface other than pavement for a couple of seconds or minutes. Say you'v…
It is an interesting thing though. Why did the design lead too people leaving the cups behind? I get the hostile part as they do not want to clean up other peoples trash. It is something I think about a lot on the way to work. I see gum on the ground. Not like one or two here and there but hundreds of little blobs on the sidewalk. What is causing people in these particular spots to leave their gum behind and then put…
Yep. The primary fault lies with the too-many people who abused the non-hostile system. "This is why we can't have nice things"--because trust is too costly in the societies where hostile architecture is prevalent.
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#407Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wooden hangers retail for around €1 here, and it's ~2.5x cheaper if you look at AliExpress. Note that both are retail, the wholesale prices are probably half of that. €19 for a hanger is ridiculously expensive, even if they're individually hand made. Granted it includes shipping, but even if shipping is 50% of the cost, it's still absurdly expensive. She mentions in the video that the plastic pieces are injection mou…
> €19 for a hanger is ridiculously expensive €19 for a hanger is the wrong way to look at this. There's no useful application where you'd buy a single hanger. This appears to simply be a way to provide people that want to toss €19 of support to someone they like doing something cool a little something in return. The 12 hanger package is $75, which makes the per-hanger cost of $6.25 still a bit high, but well within a…
Here's a fancy wooden coathanger from Muji that's 20 bucks
https://www.muji.us/collections/hooks-hangers/products/woode...
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#408I just saw the Kickstarter[1]. The margins on these coat hangers look so good that it'd make NVIDIA blush. [1]: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/simonegiertz/coat-hinge...
1. This is a kickstarter, not retail. It’s meant to also kickstart the project by providing funding to set up the factory, train assembly staff, and recoup R&D costs.
2. You can buy 1 for $20 sure. But they are also selling 12 for $75. $6.25 each is not nearly so bad for a small batch product. Larger production runs could likely be much cheaper.
3. Are Nvidia’s margins really that great? $4.2B profit on $27B revenue works out to less than 16%. Many people who criticize per-unit sales by tech companies totally neglect R&D costs that need to be recouped somehow.
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#409Won’t this create pressure marks on the clothes where the hanger pushes against the wall? Since it’s not hanging symmetrically like a normal coat hanger, the hanger will tilt backwards against the wall due to gravity pulling the front part down.
Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]
#410Can’t this already easily be accomplished and even flatter to the wall simply by using a hanger with a swiveling head? Only downsides compared to this invention would be the way the different items nested together and the fact that they stuck out to the sides 50% of each hanger at the ends?
Well, being nested together leads to the downside that you can only easily add and remove things at the end of the rack, while with OPs solution you can easily insert and remove from random points of the rack.
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