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Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by meheleventyone »

lancesells wrote: post #54
throw101010 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't call it a weasel word because it describes accurately the fact nobody gave them the authorization to use the likeness of Attenborough, and there are laws to protect people's likeness in multiple jurisdictions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights ) that might require such authorization (whether they could be applied in the case of AI remains to be tested, but apparently most of them do not que…

How is it different than an impersonator? 1. Let's say there's 1000 people that could, or would, want to truly impersonate him in the world as a job. Now there's 8 billion who don't need rest, who don't need to practice, who won't be indistinguishable from the real thing.

Depends on how it’s represented. If you booked David Attenborough and an impersonator showed instead you’d be annoyed. If TV shows started using an impersonator instead of Attenborough but said it was him both the audience and Attenborough would be annoyed when found out.

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Post by nurple »

Even though it is going to be extremely painful, one thing that excites me most about AI is the distinct possibility that it obliterates the concept of artificial scarcity that so much of the world relies on to create money these days. IMO, AI is exposing the frail and unnatural aspect of this legally-protected rent seeking.

No, I don't think the legal system will be able to keep up, and I also don't think the infoligarchs in Silicon Valley will be able to keep a lid on the box.

Yes, I'm frightened that my skills in slinging code will be available via a simple query to a model(at least as frightened as a SAG), but I'm also heartened that if these glass ceilings are shattered that we may finally make the evolutional step necessary to break so many of us free of this amoral and inhuman treadmill of misery that simply has no reason to exist with the resources at our disposal.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by davidmurdoch »

dataangel wrote: post #44
alpaca128 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Requires a 3 second (!) clip of the voice you want to clone. Sure, if you want a guaranteed uncanny valley experience. There is no way a few seconds are enough to cover all the ways a specific person pronounces things. A person's voice is much more than just the pitch and with a 3 second sample anyone who knows them will be able to tell something's off within 3 seconds.

No I suspect 3 seconds is often enough. It's not learning how you pronounce each word, it's seeing some pronunciations you use and from that guessing how you would pronounce other things based on how those pronunciations are clustered in its training data. In other words if in that 3 seconds it hears you say y'all it has a pretty good shot at inferring how you say a lot of other things.

Do you know what an uncanny valley is?

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by petepete »

curiousObject wrote: post #41
losvedir wrote: post #35

Someone at work shared this and I thought it was hilarious and awesome. A number of other people found it disrespectful or gross. I'm sort of fascinated at the values divide. I can see why SAG/ASTRA, or voice actors, aren't going to like this technology, but it doesn't feel all that different to any other industry swept away by tech, whether that's farming, horses and carriages, mining, etc. In other words, I can see…

This demonstration is respectful. It’s funny. It’s obvious parody. But, the tech can be used to make disrespectful content. Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn. I don’t know what we can do. Ain’t no easy answers. But do we want courts and $Lawyers deciding what is respectful?

Or Attenborough attributing the wonders of the planet to a god.

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Post by askiiart »

eli wrote: post #64
asylteltine wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not funny because it’s “aligned”. You can’t be funny with all those restrictions.

It’s not funny because it doesn’t know what it’s talking about and there’s a big gap between “follows the rules of jokes” and “actually amusing”

No, I used GPT-3 before ChatGPT was even released, and it was decent at making jokes. It even wrote some dialogue between various artists and poets ruthlessly insulting each other, but unfortunately I forgot to save it. ChatGPT is very similar, but with a chat interface and much more aligned, so I don't see why 3.5, much less 4, couldn't write decent jokes.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by ljm »

mechhacker wrote: post #56

When I see a lot of this voice replication I am reminded of something. (Dune series spoiler) For example, Duncan Idaho keeps being brought back with cloning tech, over and over, for centuries, because Leto II just likes him. Over and over, the same man keeps being put by the (nearly) immortal emperor's side... I ask: are we stuck as a monoculture, not making new, interesting things, but simply replicating older ones?…

I feel like the novelty will wear off sooner or later. I certainly got bored of doing "X but as Y" pretty fast.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by chankstein38 »

alpaca128 wrote: post #25
fotcorn wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The recently released XTTS-v2 model[0] from coqui.ai is coming very close to what ElevenLabs[1] can do. It runs reasonably fast on a recent GPU, and should also work on CPU. Requires a 3 second (!) clip of the voice you want to clone. License does not allow commercial use. 0: https://huggingface.co/coqui/XTTS-v2 1: https://elevenlabs.io/

> Requires a 3 second (!) clip of the voice you want to clone. Sure, if you want a guaranteed uncanny valley experience. There is no way a few seconds are enough to cover all the ways a specific person pronounces things. A person's voice is much more than just the pitch and with a 3 second sample anyone who knows them will be able to tell something's off within 3 seconds.

I know the parent comment said 3 seconds, but for what it's worth, the actual huggingface page says "a 6 second clip" which, admittedly, is still fairly hard to believe but I guess twice as believable as a 3 second clip.

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Post by bathtub365 »

nurple wrote: post #72

Even though it is going to be extremely painful, one thing that excites me most about AI is the distinct possibility that it obliterates the concept of artificial scarcity that so much of the world relies on to create money these days. IMO, AI is exposing the frail and unnatural aspect of this legally-protected rent seeking. No, I don't think the legal system will be able to keep up, and I also don't think the infoli…

Artificial scarcity of what? Content?
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