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Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by empyrrhicist »

Chris2048 wrote: post #15
dcchambers wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree. If this could be created without using recordings of his voice to train the model, then sure. I agree a "sound-alike" like that is fair game. But since actual recordings of his voice were used in order to train the model to recreate the sound, inflection, cadence, etc...it should be required to get authorization to use those recordings for this purpose.

> But since actual recordings of his voice were used in order to train Tell that to all the ppl who contributed to Co-Pilots training set..

I mean, yeah? That's also something we need to seriously consider. These tools have the ability to copy the labor and property of others in a way that is economically important and socially challenging, and we don't yet have a legal framework to handle it.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by Lord-Jobo »

curiousObject wrote: post #41
losvedir wrote: post #35

Someone at work shared this and I thought it was hilarious and awesome. A number of other people found it disrespectful or gross. I'm sort of fascinated at the values divide. I can see why SAG/ASTRA, or voice actors, aren't going to like this technology, but it doesn't feel all that different to any other industry swept away by tech, whether that's farming, horses and carriages, mining, etc. In other words, I can see…

This demonstration is respectful. It’s funny. It’s obvious parody. But, the tech can be used to make disrespectful content. Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn. I don’t know what we can do. Ain’t no easy answers. But do we want courts and $Lawyers deciding what is respectful?

Courts and lawyers will do a bad job, and also the best job out of every option available. As it has been for 100 years.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by sonicanatidae »

curiousObject wrote: post #41
losvedir wrote: post #35

Someone at work shared this and I thought it was hilarious and awesome. A number of other people found it disrespectful or gross. I'm sort of fascinated at the values divide. I can see why SAG/ASTRA, or voice actors, aren't going to like this technology, but it doesn't feel all that different to any other industry swept away by tech, whether that's farming, horses and carriages, mining, etc. In other words, I can see…

This demonstration is respectful. It’s funny. It’s obvious parody. But, the tech can be used to make disrespectful content. Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn. I don’t know what we can do. Ain’t no easy answers. But do we want courts and $Lawyers deciding what is respectful?

To be fair, I would pay folding money to hear Attenborough narrate pr0n.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by lancesells »

throw101010 wrote: post #34
vbeeaz wrote: post #2

"unauthorized" is a weasel word because it implies that it should be necessary for the developer to ask David Attenborough for authorization to create a clone of his voice using AI.

I wouldn't call it a weasel word because it describes accurately the fact nobody gave them the authorization to use the likeness of Attenborough, and there are laws to protect people's likeness in multiple jurisdictions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights ) that might require such authorization (whether they could be applied in the case of AI remains to be tested, but apparently most of them do not que…

How is it different than an impersonator? 1. Let's say there's 1000 people that could, or would, want to truly impersonate him in the world as a job. Now there's 8 billion who don't need rest, who don't need to practice, who won't be indistinguishable from the real thing.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by devnull3 »

andsoitis wrote: post #39
devnull3 wrote: post #4

These things have suddenly going mainstream and lot of ppl (including me) are having existential question: what does it mean to be a human? PS: It will be fun to do in "damn nature u r scary" voice & style [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vlFHlSm1r4

> existential question: what does it mean to be a human? One perspective that might be helpful is that humans have for many millennia pondered this question, so it isn't new. We have a more exacting (but not perfect) definition from a biological perspective. We also have philosophical theories about personhood[1] and mind[2]. One can hypothesized that these, and other characteristics, such as the emergence of culture…

> so it isn't new

I agree but so far mainly philosophers & intellectuals used to ponder. With advancement in tech many believed that intellectual or creative work is safe. I think now this is a jolt to a lot of white-collar folks who are looped in with the recent advancements in AI.

Its not that intellectual or creative work will vanish but a lot of the current work will be commoditized.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by mechhacker »

When I see a lot of this voice replication I am reminded of something.

(Dune series spoiler)

For example, Duncan Idaho keeps being brought back with cloning tech, over and over, for centuries, because Leto II just likes him. Over and over, the same man keeps being put by the (nearly) immortal emperor's side...

I ask: are we stuck as a monoculture, not making new, interesting things, but simply replicating older ones?

The technology is novel and interesting, but culturally, aside from the concerns about annoying the people being replicated, it seems a bit stuck.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by devnull3 »

asylteltine wrote: post #49
devnull3 wrote: post #4

These things have suddenly going mainstream and lot of ppl (including me) are having existential question: what does it mean to be a human? PS: It will be fun to do in "damn nature u r scary" voice & style [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vlFHlSm1r4

Humans aren’t special. I wish I could be a cyborg how cool would that be

I know, though lot of major religions do not think so.

Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by [deleted] »

dataangel wrote: post #44
alpaca128 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Requires a 3 second (!) clip of the voice you want to clone. Sure, if you want a guaranteed uncanny valley experience. There is no way a few seconds are enough to cover all the ways a specific person pronounces things. A person's voice is much more than just the pitch and with a 3 second sample anyone who knows them will be able to tell something's off within 3 seconds.

No I suspect 3 seconds is often enough. It's not learning how you pronounce each word, it's seeing some pronunciations you use and from that guessing how you would pronounce other things based on how those pronunciations are clustered in its training data. In other words if in that 3 seconds it hears you say y'all it has a pretty good shot at inferring how you say a lot of other things.

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Re: Unauthorized "David Attenborough" AI clone narrates developer's life, goes viral

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Post by calgoo »

asylteltine wrote: post #48
eli wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried to get a GPT to write a joke? It’s got a ways to go.

It’s not funny because it’s “aligned”. You can’t be funny with all those restrictions.

I was not allowed to make a meme of me with a gas can in the datacenter lighting the servers on fire as it was decommission time. It instead suggested i give it a goodbye party. Funny and a little scary at the same time.
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