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> The human mind is simply not evolutionary adapted for what's coming up. Maybe we're in fact evolutionarily adapted to not being evolutionarily adapted. We have successfully dealt with a whole sequence of hard societal pivots by now…
That's literally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias .
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Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons
#342I got koboldcpp ( https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp ) running locally on my M1 mac with 16gb. Use the guides on http://4chan.org/g/ in the AI Chatbot Thread. In the future, you will own and control access to your very own AI girlfriend running on your local machine, and you will be happy. Think of all the millions of guys in China and elsewhere who, due to sex selective abortion, will never have a wife. They des…
Why do they deserve that? To be more explicit, why do some men deserve an "artificial intelligence girlfriend" that they "own and control", that "serves them"?
If that issue might be mitigated somewhat with an LLM that's basically just "smart autocomplete" so they're less miserable, that's probably an okay start. Same as how all sorts of forms of entertainment can keep populations of people more complacent with whatever their life circumstances are, instead of rioting in the streets. As for the ownership and control argument, I wouldn't go as far as to anthropomorphize a computer program, no more than I own a copy of Microsoft Word, or no more than GCC serves me by compiling some code.
The wording of the parent comment is a bit interesting, maybe a bit tongue in cheek and hopefully wouldn't get applied in any capacity to real human beings. But I can kind of see the point, even though it's very dystopian: a purpose built LLM might eventually gamify being an adult and taking care of oneself, like having healthy meals and working out in exchange for EXP points (which honestly isn't bad, like how many fitness bands and their apps do this), but with a helping of whatever the party ideology is, in addition to spying on the user a lot, vs something running locally.
Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons
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Yeah, and the comments on this thread seriously worry me. We have people arguing that it is good for society to satisfy lonely men with virtual porn and other people saying that this is great, scrappy product development and the author should go further/use other models not constrained by openAI's policies. It feels like I'm discovering a significant portion of our field are sociopaths
Well, it might be harm reduction to let lonely men have AI girlfriends. Sure, I wish reality was not a dystopia that constantly let me down, but all I can do is take anti-depressants, make money, keep voting, and hope things get better the longer I live. If the hypothesis that isolated men cause trouble is true, and if we don't have a long-term solution, at least this could be a stop-gap. Assuming it does not radical…
Therefore i think we should keep working on an actual solution.
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The rookiest cop can: 1. track you with license plate readers 2. pull up any information about you 3. fine you 4. force you to stop 5. detain you 6. confiscate your car and property 7. search you and your property 8. take your phone and search it Bill Gates can: 1. give you a free browser when you buy his operating system
I think this comment is focusing on a specific country rather than the world at large.
Here's some data: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/state-of-democracy-around-t...
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I suspect the issue here is that most of HN folks live in western countries with mostly working democracies. For the most part we haven’t experienced how bad governments can get. Whether or not western style democracies are immune to going really bad, remains to be seen. Some days I’m optimistic, some days not so much.
I've lived in dictatorships and non-functional democracies, in spite of that corporations have done me far more harm than those states ever did. I do realize they have that power and I do realize it gets abused and regularly so. But the fact is that people get abused by corporations all the time and by their governments less frequently if ever. But when they are abused the consequences are likely much worse.
Same here. Corporations at worst got a bunch of (unearned) money off of me. My "democratic" government can (and tried to) put me in jail, disallow me to make my living from my field of choice, controls my (and my children's) education and is trying to kill me every day with an incredibly bad (government-run, of course) infrastructure and healthcare.
The communist dictatorship I grew up in killed a bunch of my relatives and tried hard to grind my family (and me) into the ground. I was lucky with the fall of the evil ideology.
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The point is, a thread that should be full of technical conversation and speculation is full of pearl-clutching Karens calling for the government to step in. It refutes your point about HN being "skeptical of government regulation and control of AI" very effectively. Of course, it's fallacious for either of us to refer to "HN" as if it were a monolithic bloc... but having spent some time in that thread, I have to won…
> But regardless of how you interpret HN sentiment towards uncontrolled AI access, it doesn't change the fact that "what about the government" is a profoundly weird thing to ask in the middle of a conversation about people doing erotic roleplays with a text bot. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the government is not producing AI-generated David Attenborough pornography, right? And if it's not, then... I don't know what t…
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It is? I suggest reading the newspaper.
It would probably be better for you if you read a little less news.
That worked until my kids started school and my parents' health deteriorated. I was in for quite a shock. Crappy infrastructure was the least of the problems! Luckily there are private alternatives but they are crippled by law and they can't cover everything.
Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons
#349I got koboldcpp ( https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp ) running locally on my M1 mac with 16gb. Use the guides on http://4chan.org/g/ in the AI Chatbot Thread. In the future, you will own and control access to your very own AI girlfriend running on your local machine, and you will be happy. Think of all the millions of guys in China and elsewhere who, due to sex selective abortion, will never have a wife. They des…
Why do they deserve that? To be more explicit, why do some men deserve an "artificial intelligence girlfriend" that they "own and control", that "serves them"?
I think a better question to ask is what makes you think they don’t?
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No, you are asking why people should be allowed to seek happiness without a state or corporate entity using that as a method of control.
Well no I'm not but I appreciate you telling me what I mean.