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I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by WhrRTheBaboons »

fgdelcueto wrote: post #50
lagt_t wrote: post #18

Those wire hangers are murder in clothes. You want thick wooden hangers that will last you a lifetime.

When my son was about 5 months old, he was crawling in the bathroom floor while I was getting dressed in the adjacent walk-in closet. He was playing with the closet door and closed it. I didn't think much of it, but then I noticed that he had also opened a drawer which prevented me from opening the door from the closet (terrible apartment design!). I was stuck in the closet alone, without my phone, unable to get out.…

That's a hilarious story. Thanks for posting!

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by Jnr »

rplnt wrote: post #175
ansible wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here’s an idea. Instead of the rod being parallel with the wall, have multiple small rods perpendicular to the wall. They can easily accommodate full size coat hangers. Problem solved That takes up more wall space, and makes it harder to see what everything is. I get that this is not the product for you (or me either), but don't compare the 3 years of on again, off again mulling over the design with your 20 seconds…

> with your 20 seconds of thought on the problem space It's a solved problem, is what I imagine OP meant by the "idea". It's not theirs. Those products exist. It's not harder to see what everything is because they come in variants where they are stacked vertically, can pop out, can slide out. I agree it might not be as space efficient, but at least you are not limited to thin items that don't crease. And it's just a…

Someone linked the "parallel to the wall" hanger here https://www.amazon.ca/Retractable-Adjustable-Wardrobe-Clothi... and it costs a lot. If you want to put multiple ones next to each other, it becomes quite expensive.

Also access to items behind other items becomes harder and slower. And it requires a shelf above to secure to.

Horizontal pole and foldable hanger design still seems like a simpler and better approach. The design seems so good that I bet you will be able to order these from China in a couple of years for less than a dollar.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by krisoft »

bhelkey wrote: post #177
BlindEyeHalo wrote: post #173

I really like her videos but I don't understand how this solves the problem in a better way than any of the obvious alternatives and it kind of bothers me that she doesn't address this at all in the video. All she does is say "there are no folding coat hangers on the market". The simplest thing would be to just get a hanger with a rotating hook and hang it at a ~45 degree angle and I don't see how her solution is bet…

She says that there are foldable coat hangers but none fold while hanging while holding clothes. I have no idea if this is true or not but that is the problem statement.

That sounds like a solution attempt masquerading as a problem statement. Repeating it does not answer the question: “but why do you want a foldable coat hanger which can fold while hanging”.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by traceroute66 »

jackdoe wrote: post #181

I just love the maker's mind. > I want something that does not exist, I will make it. Making things has never been so accessible, if you don't know how to start, join a community and ask, if they are hostile, just ask chatgpt and start from there. 3d printers are 200$, esp32 is the same cost as arduino nano. Want to make AI things? Make them. Want to make coat hangers? Make them. Want to make a book stand? Make it. I…

> Want to make AI things? Make them. Want to make coat hangers? Make them. Want to make a book stand? Make it.

Or, you could just, you know, buy them.

My beef with people who say, like you do that 3D printers are cheap or you can buy an arduino/pi/whatever, is simple.

People consistently fail to value their time, and the startup cost.

The startup cost because your thinking works on the assumption that people know how to use, e.g. a 3D printer out of the box. The reality is that most people don't. And as such, they will expend a great deal of time with Mr Google and various internet forums trying to figure it out. They will then proceed to flush money down the pan on materials during their learning.

Second people seem to value their time at zero. If you value your time at zero, then sure, its cheaper to make it yourself. But if you value your time realistically, its cheaper to either (a) buy it or (b) pay a domain-expert to make it for you.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by extraduder_ire »

unwind wrote: post #138
anonymfus wrote: post #68

Original submission title was "Why Simone Giertz spent 3 years working on a coat hanger", moderators changed it to "I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger", the title of the video is "Why I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger".

I understand that it's counter to the very specific brand of minimalism HN does, but it would be neat if Youtube submissions displayed the channel name without needing to click.

Even if it worked the way that twitter URLs get displayed with the user's handle in the site section.

Probably easier to do now that youtube has moved to @handles.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by jstimpfle »

maxglute wrote: post #100

Pull out retractable closet rod. https://www.amazon.ca/Retractable-Adjustable-Wardrobe-Clothi... Mount under shelf. Use high quality hanger that doesn't damage or crease. No extra folding action. Put nice article of clothing in front and looks very nice. Turning storage 90 degrees for shallow storage solves more problems than folding clothes in half. Having seen tons of these in show rooms, I dare say it's a long sol…

My thought as well. The disadvantage though is that you need to move a "pack" of hung clothes and turn them around (or pull them out) to find the one you're looking for. In the folded arrangement, you can probably find what you're looking for at a glance, from a distance.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Post by sltkr »

trabant00 wrote: post #190
sirk390 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I you hang them at 45 degree the depth will be reducted by sqrt(2). (about 0.7 x hanger length), and you will lose space on each side. And the more you increase the angle, the more you will lose space on the sides. With this technique, you will reduce the depth to 0.5 x hanger length and not lose space on the side.

With this solution you lose the most space on the side because of the notched rod. The notches have to be wide enough for a the thickest stuff, but then a shirt will take as much space as thick coat. If your goal is to save as much depth as possible the solution is obviously front to back direction rods, as opposed to side to side. There's plenty of options available from retractable ones to wall mounted ones that do…

> The notches have to be wide enough for a the thickest stuff, but then a shirt will take as much space as thick coat.

It's probably easier to take out a hinger and let a thick coat take up two spaces (or more). Assuming you have only few coats, that's more efficient than increasing the spacing uniformly.

It does seem like you lose some flexibility due to the slots, though.

It also seems possible to put many more slots in the rod. There is no functional reason why slots and hingers need to match 1 on 1.

> If your goal is to save as much depth as possible the solution is obviously front to back direction rods, as opposed to side to side.

Somehow it feels like it would be harder to store the same amount of clothes on front-to-back rods. I also think it would be harder to browse clothes and take out the shirt you want; even with the retractable rod you have to pull out and push in rods just to see what's on them.

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