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Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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Re: Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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Sometimes you have to go against the grain though. After all, evolution is true, and marketing it as 'this is a great way to supplement your creationism' (which Darwin actually did) may not exactly go over well or be the most honest approach.

We don't know evolution is true. The most you can say is that evolution is the best explanation we have for the data collected so far.

There have been pretty major revisions to the evolution since Darwin's time, and I think it still needs a lot of work to explain some of its fuzzier points ('chemical evolution', cambrian explosion, etc). It's entirely possible that a new explanation (i.e., not evolution) could better explain those and other data points.

It could be similar to how newtonian mechanics works 99% of the time, but couldn't explain the orbit of mercury. We needed relativity (which arguably disproved gravity) to explain the handful of non-conforming data points.

Re: Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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It always irks me a bit when science is pushed out of its comfort zone to make some non-scientific point. Subtlety is lost, misconception introduced. And language like "just a theory" suggests that scientific theory is much less rigorous than it actually is.

Re: Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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Sometimes you have to go against the grain though. After all, evolution is true, and marketing it as 'this is a great way to supplement your creationism' (which Darwin actually did) may not exactly go over well or be the most honest approach.

We don't know evolution is true. The most you can say is that evolution is the best explanation we have for the data collected so far. There have been pretty major revisions to the evolution since Darwin's time, and I think it still needs a lot of work to explain some of its fuzzier points ('chemical evolution', cambrian explosion, etc). It's entirely possible that a new explanation (i.e., not evolution) could better…

granted. perhaps 'a better theory than what came before it' might be a better description.

Re: Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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Sometimes you have to go against the grain though. After all, evolution is true, and marketing it as 'this is a great way to supplement your creationism' (which Darwin actually did) may not exactly go over well or be the most honest approach.

We don't know evolution is true. The most you can say is that evolution is the best explanation we have for the data collected so far. There have been pretty major revisions to the evolution since Darwin's time, and I think it still needs a lot of work to explain some of its fuzzier points ('chemical evolution', cambrian explosion, etc). It's entirely possible that a new explanation (i.e., not evolution) could better…

We don't know evolution is true

I think scientists are still waiting on the results of the 100m year experiment where a fish pen turns into a group of intelligent humans.

Honestly, I'm sure I'll get flak for this, but I can't believe people accept Evolution as if it's some inherent and proven physical law as gravity. On the macro-evolutionary level, there's so much bullshitting/extrapolation going on (especially in the arena of speciation) that there's so many questions and holes left unanswered.

Despite the fact that we only ever observe variation within a given type, we're supposed to have faith in the scientists that (given enough time) we'll get whole new kingdoms of life. As far as I'm concerned, those experiments prove one thing: variation exists within a given type. Period.

Re: Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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Sometimes you have to go against the grain though. After all, evolution is true, and marketing it as 'this is a great way to supplement your creationism' (which Darwin actually did) may not exactly go over well or be the most honest approach.

We don't know evolution is true. The most you can say is that evolution is the best explanation we have for the data collected so far. There have been pretty major revisions to the evolution since Darwin's time, and I think it still needs a lot of work to explain some of its fuzzier points ('chemical evolution', cambrian explosion, etc). It's entirely possible that a new explanation (i.e., not evolution) could better…

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Re: Seth's Blog: Gravity is just a theory

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We don't know evolution is true. The most you can say is that evolution is the best explanation we have for the data collected so far. There have been pretty major revisions to the evolution since Darwin's time, and I think it still needs a lot of work to explain some of its fuzzier points ('chemical evolution', cambrian explosion, etc). It's entirely possible that a new explanation (i.e., not evolution) could better…

We don't know evolution is true I think scientists are still waiting on the results of the 100m year experiment where a fish pen turns into a group of intelligent humans. Honestly, I'm sure I'll get flak for this, but I can't believe people accept Evolution as if it's some inherent and proven physical law as gravity. On the macro-evolutionary level, there's so much bullshitting/extrapolation going on (especially in t…

Most people I've met that accept evolution (well, the ones that accept evolution and also think about what they accept) accept it as requiring less bullshitting than other proposals and are also willing to reject it if something better comes along. I haven't met any reasoned person in a while that accepts evolution and isn't okay with the fact that it might not be right or at least finished yet.
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