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I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

#101

Love the iteration story, but like, what about pants? And thick winter coats? And stuff I don't want a weird potential fold line slightly to the left/right of centre? Her example rack only contains the clothes that would be perfect for this. My rack and hangers accommodate all my needs with one simple cheap design.

I normally fold my pants in half vertically and over the hanger. How do you normally do this?

Some examples here, most of which should work with her hanger size:

https://www.wikihow.com/Hang-Pants

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

#102

Her Truckla video is hilarious but serious at the same time ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKv_N0IDS2A

Imagine my surprise when, after watching Truckla all those years ago, I saw the Cyber Truck's design.

Simone literally put the design on a platter for Tesla and they managed to not only screw it up, they still haven't made it four years later.

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I forgot who she was, so: > Giertz has previously branded herself as "the queen of shitty robots" on her YouTube channel, where she employs deadpan humor to demonstrate mechanical robots of her own creation to automate everyday tasks; despite working from a purely mechanical standpoint, they often fall short of practical usefulness, for comic effect.[9] Giertz's creations have included an alarm clock that slaps the u…

She has tried (and quite successfully imho) to move away from that image and become a respectable creator/inventor.

I think the highlights of her maker-career is Truckla, her Tesla she repurposed as a truck and drove to the cyber truck reveal. And her everyday calendar, which is a board of 365 LED and you can click each for everyday you complete whatever your everyday goal is and end the year with a lot board. As I recall it met and exceeded its kickstarter.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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Looks so simple, but I guess that's a sign of good design. I was also surprised something like this didn't exist already. But my first thought was that it will almost certainly be cloned and sold en masse pretty quickly, so I hope she gets enough revenue from it to pay for her time.

> Looks so simple, but I guess that's a sign of good design. I find that this is tends to be the rule, not the exception and it's really reworked how I view things. I've started to almost (more jokingly than seriously) believe that the less novel something appears the more it actually is. The real mark for a good work seems to be "wow, how did you spend so much time on that? It's so fucking obvious" combined with "wh…

She labels her prototypes in the video on the Kickstarter page and the one that either ended up being the final design or very close to it was prototype number 134. So it did take her quite a long time to arrive at the solution.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then the copies of the Chinese copies from Amazon itself… It’s theft all the way down

But I'm sure she's patented it and amazon wouldn't want to get caught for intellectual property theft so will be diligent about policing sellers. They wouldn't want a bad reputation. And the customs office will destroy any imported product in violation of her patents.

You cannot patent a foldable coat hanger. The only thing she could patent is the specific mechanism she used to enable folding, but I doubt the copycats would use exactly the same design.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the very first sentence she says in her video is "I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger". is there something about the title that bothers you? I get when someone complains that a title is misleading, but I don't understand the commentary when the meaning is basically the same and the person commenting didn't even seem to have watched the first 3 seconds of the video.

I am not related to her in any way other than being her subscriber on YouTube, yet my nickname is attached to the HackerNews submission, and with current title I expect that somebody will eventually think that I am she, or that I pretend to be her.

email hn@ycombinator.com and ask dang to change it back, and tell him that reason.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

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post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>All of China/Asia/Africa are free manufacturing for the West… Not free. But extremely cheap. >Of course, the view that they don’t innovate and only knockoff the West is also hilariously false. Of course not. I never made this claim. But in China, the incentive to innovate is much lower due to lack of enforcement of intellectual property rights. So of course in terms of cost/benefit ratio every individual in China is…

> Of course not. I never made this claim. I’m aware you left yourself a bit of wriggle room versus the absolute claim. Doesn’t change how it sounds. > When China steals ideas You know how they say the execution matters, not just the idea? > and manufacturing from the US US companies bring the plan, but the Chinese factories have unparalleled skills in actually manufacturing the product into reality. Not sure how you…

>I’m aware you left yourself a bit of wriggle room versus the absolute claim. Doesn’t change how it sounds.

No. What happened here is you interpreted it as a insult to your pride. That did not occur. What occurred was a statement of a fact. It was you're own pride and bias that changed how it sounded.

>You know how they say the execution matters, not just the idea?

So. What's your point? Everybody knows this. Why are you stating something obvious? I think you were so clouded by your pride that you can't see that I'm neutral. I really don't care. Your tone only became neutral when you realized I was a neutral party. You were blinded by your own pride when you thought you were communicating with an "enemy" and when you realized I'm neutral that cleared your mind. Now you're talking some sense.

>Not sure how you are claiming that they both can and can’t deliver the required quality? Almost everything, high and low quality, can be manufactured in China. Spend the full $$$ value and you’ll get unbeatable quality. But pay peanuts, get cheap things.

I said marketing AND QC. There's a ton of low quality shit coming out of China. A ton. There's a ton of high quality stuff too that's behind a wall of bad marketing. You just need to compare TEMU and Amazon.

You say you're not sure how I made a claim that they can and cant' deliver the required quality then RIGHT after that statement you say almost everything high and low quality comes out China. So you aren't sure how I can make such a "claim" then you make the SAME claim right after that sentence. That makes no sense.

>To continue my point above, they take that product and manufacture it with the best cost-value ratio for the mass consumer. You can always get various levels of quality in knockoffs.

Quality is inconsistent enough that Chinese products are associated with poor quality. Additionally the marketing is just bad, your products may be made in China but the brand is rarely ever Chinese.

>This is actually connected to my previous post. The West is able to do this solely due to economic and currency disparities, which are further perpetuated by the West. Hence, you get:

Good we're in agreement.

>The West is completely dependent on the non-West for labor. It’s such a massive point of failure that the Western lifestyle would fall apart otherwise.

Not completely dependent. And not permanently dependent. Advanced manufacturing is still very much US exclusive. For example, boeing air liners. China does not know how to manufacture those things yet. And given the fact the US knows advanced manufacturing they can implement basic manufacturing again if the need arises. BUT, and this is a huge but, as more and more time passes with America not reinvigorating manufacturing they will slip deeper and deeper into permanent dependence.

But overall we're in agreement here. Next time be more careful before you charge in with your guns armed. It's better to be neutral as you see the world with clearer eyes.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

#109
I was also definitely surprised this didn't already exist; but hey I never thought of it either! My apartment has a bunch of bookshelves with hanging bars in them (?) definitely not big enough for normal hangers unless you turn them sideways and lose a bunch of space.

On this design though, my biggest criticism would be that it requires the hanger to be leaning against the wall when folded, to not fall at an angle. While that's fine for the co-designed rack she has, it makes them a lot less useful on their own or in other randomly wall-to-rack spaced closets (even says so in the kickstarter).

The simple solution is to move the hook to be centered over the folded hanger, so it's balanced when folded. It'd look super goofy and not hang right unfolded, but that's probably fine. Surprised none of the prototypes tried that.

Re: I spent 3 years working on a coat hanger [video]

#110
post #16

Looks so simple, but I guess that's a sign of good design. I was also surprised something like this didn't exist already. But my first thought was that it will almost certainly be cloned and sold en masse pretty quickly, so I hope she gets enough revenue from it to pay for her time.

This is an extremely useful design. I never thought I'd get excited about something like this but I recently moved to an old house with chimney flues running through every room, resulting in shallow alcoves that are of differing sizes. A fitted wardrobe would be pricey (~$4000), barely fit depthwise and half of the space would just be covering the flue if we wanted it wall to wall. On the other hand I can just buy 3/…

I thought about it as well but if the rod is attached to a plank on the wall the clothes are 1cm away from the wall allowing for some air circulation.

Btw, there is an alternative solution, a hanger where the hook can spin, so one can hang clothes diagonally, nearly flat. Hers looks nicer on the wall though.

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