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De-crufted Windows 11 coming to Europe soon

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Re: De-crufted Windows 11 coming to Europe soon

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Post by t-writescode »

dannyw wrote: post #9
tonymet wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a few minutes you can make Windows 11 look pretty close to Windows 7 (or 10) by disabling personalization, content , widgets, new tab content. In edge disable all of the new tools and bing integration. You’re right about the hassle of doing it manually, and I wish there were a global “Windows 2k mode” that ran the OS as lean as possible.

Pay for Enterprise and a lot of it is pre disabled. Others can be configured via group policy.

How do you get access to enterprise? Last I looked, I believe you had to create a company-relationship with Microsoft to be allowed to do that and there was probably a lot more cruft to do.

Edit: and a quick scan of the Microsoft website says that you need to "Contact Sales" still.

Re: De-crufted Windows 11 coming to Europe soon

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Post by 6510 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #8
zacksiri wrote: post #7

This is one of the marks of good product managers. Cut the cruft from the product. It's refreshing that in this case regulators are cutting things from the product rather than enforcing things to be added like cookie banners.

Regulators didn't enforce cookie banners. Cookie banners are a form of malicious compliance. When you complain about them, you are doing the lobbying work of ad companies for free. The correct solution is to just not spy on people, and the problem is that the EU didn't go far enough and just ban the behavior altogether.

Fun thought experiment: How would you disable access to your website after someone refuses your cookies? iow, you should always click NO.

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Post by lovepronmostly »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #8
zacksiri wrote: post #7

This is one of the marks of good product managers. Cut the cruft from the product. It's refreshing that in this case regulators are cutting things from the product rather than enforcing things to be added like cookie banners.

Regulators didn't enforce cookie banners. Cookie banners are a form of malicious compliance. When you complain about them, you are doing the lobbying work of ad companies for free. The correct solution is to just not spy on people, and the problem is that the EU didn't go far enough and just ban the behavior altogether.

What is the limit here?

If I own a store and you walk into my store am I required to forget that you came into my store?

Monday:

Bill: "Hey Jane (store owner), do you have any X45 hammers?"

Jane: "Sorry Bill, I'm out but might have some tomorrow"

Tuesday:

Bill "Did hammer come in I mentioned yesterday?"

Jane: "What hammer? Sorry I'm not allowed to remember anything about people in my shop because that would be spying so whatever you said to me yesterday has been deleted from my memory"

PS: I hate spying too. I'm just not sure how to design a law to prevent it that doesn't have unintended consequences.

Re: De-crufted Windows 11 coming to Europe soon

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Post by mananaysiempre »

graphe wrote: post #5

Just install LTSB or LTSC instead.

For 12- or 13-th generation Intel systems with non-homogeneous cores, the scheduler in Windows 11 is supposed to work much better than the one in Windows 10 (including the latest Windows LTSC release from 2021).

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Post by [deleted] »

aetherspawn wrote: post #3

Suppose you are buying a new laptop ... does anyone else feel sad that their operating system has effectively turned into some weird social media marketing tracking data harvesting hybrid of a thing? But in the name of progress and security, you can't stay on Windows 10. So for me it's this weird middle ground right now .. waiting for either Windows to U-turn, die out, or for more work apps to port to OS X.

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Post by scintill76 »

6510 wrote: post #12
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regulators didn't enforce cookie banners. Cookie banners are a form of malicious compliance. When you complain about them, you are doing the lobbying work of ad companies for free. The correct solution is to just not spy on people, and the problem is that the EU didn't go far enough and just ban the behavior altogether.

Fun thought experiment: How would you disable access to your website after someone refuses your cookies? iow, you should always click NO.

If they don’t send a cookie, pop up the banner. If they click No, redirect them to another site. If they click yes, save the cookie.

Re: De-crufted Windows 11 coming to Europe soon

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Post by darkclouds »

aetherspawn wrote: post #3

Suppose you are buying a new laptop ... does anyone else feel sad that their operating system has effectively turned into some weird social media marketing tracking data harvesting hybrid of a thing? But in the name of progress and security, you can't stay on Windows 10. So for me it's this weird middle ground right now .. waiting for either Windows to U-turn, die out, or for more work apps to port to OS X.

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