Privacy is priceless, but Signal is expensive

Post by thaumasiotes » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 2:34 AM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #507

nurple wrote: post #477

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I guess maybe I'm missing the purported point of signal, attaching your phone number to use it notwithstanding, but attaching payment identity to it as well? Like, what's the point of going through the pain required to use it?

> I guess maybe I'm missing the purported point of signal, attaching your phone number to use it notwithstanding, but attaching payment identity to it as well? Like, what's the point of going through the pain required to use it? Your payment info is not connected to your account. https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360031949872-Do...

Post by thaumasiotes » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 2:46 AM UTC

wolverine876 wrote: post #319

Dunedan wrote: post #2

> Storage: $1.3 million dollars per year. > Servers: $2.9 million dollars per year. > Registration Fees: $6 million dollars per year. > Total Bandwidth: $2.8 million dollars per year. > Additional Services: $700,000 dollars per year. Signal pays more for delivering verification SMS during sign-up, than for all other infrastructure (except traffic) combined. Wow, that sounds excessive.

Signal agrees: (from the article:) ... legacy telecom operators have realized that SMS messages are now used primarily for app registration and two-factor authentication in many places, as people switch to calling and texting services that rely on network data. In response to increased verification traffic from apps like Signal, and decreased SMS revenue from their own customers, these service providers have signific…

Post by bravoetch » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 2:48 AM UTC

rglullis wrote: post #564

illiac786 wrote: post #545

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Just don't use it, don't generate cost for them, don't be trapped by them. Everyone wins.

The 50 million using them all lose because they are locked into a monopolistic platform.

Post by MagicMoonlight » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 2:49 AM UTC

asymmetric wrote: post #587

yankput wrote: post #568

Didn't they do some sort of cryptocurrency thing. How is that going? edit: it was called MobileCoin right edit2: they do https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360057625692-In... is that generating any revenue?

I have held off donating to signal so far exactly because there is no clarity around this token, why it was even added to signal and who profited from that.

Post by nicce » Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 2:59 AM UTC

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #702

I lost interest in Signal when they started shilling a cryptocurrency that they had invested in. I really want a trustworthy replacement to Whatsapp but if I'm going to shill an app to people I know, it can't be something that has connections to investment fraud.