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Yes. Almost none of those get i18n, hotkeys, shortcuts, taborder, screenreaders and other accessibility right.

Most users don't care about any of that, either. And I would argue that i18n and l10n belong outside your language's framework (and obviously outside CSS).

If we're taking that route, most people don't care about any specific thing, so we can just skip all this development effort and play video games all day.

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Such recent demos show both how impressively ML/AI has advanced recently, and how unimpressively repetitive and unoriginal tasks keep being reimplemented by millions of developers worldwide. Since most UI screens can be accurately described in one or two paragraphs, it's no wonder they can be represented in much detail in a relatively small embedding vector.

> how unimpressively repetitive and unoriginal tasks keep being reimplemented by millions of developers worldwide

This extends far beyond just developers. This is a majority of all office work, from data entry to accounting to creative work. Most office work is just doing the same thing over and over again, often times with different people repeating what are essentially the same tasks, just at different companies.

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Slowly realising my father was right and should work for our family business (construction).

I think it's a good idea that knowledge workers learn the fundamentals of at least one trade. I am interested in HVAC and building automation.

You can also master a trade and become a knowledge worker. Here in Denmark it's possible to mix pre-university/gymnasium (equivalent to year 10-12 in the US) with a trade. Combined it takes 4.5-5 years.

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post #33

Such recent demos show both how impressively ML/AI has advanced recently, and how unimpressively repetitive and unoriginal tasks keep being reimplemented by millions of developers worldwide. Since most UI screens can be accurately described in one or two paragraphs, it's no wonder they can be represented in much detail in a relatively small embedding vector.

> how unimpressively repetitive and unoriginal tasks keep being reimplemented by millions of developers worldwide This extends far beyond just developers. This is a majority of all office work, from data entry to accounting to creative work. Most office work is just doing the same thing over and over again, often times with different people repeating what are essentially the same tasks , just at different companies.

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Re: I think I need to go lie down

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People used to write assembly language manually too, writing the most simple control structures over and over hand crafted for each case. This is even more automation of drudgery and easy repetitive work.

I welcome these tools but when you need to be completely accurate with something, you have to drop the nice graphical tool and actually edit code.. and then it's a mess. Either the code is super complex to humans or going back to graphical mode breaks everything.

that sounds quite like dreamweaver

Re: I think I need to go lie down

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post #33

Such recent demos show both how impressively ML/AI has advanced recently, and how unimpressively repetitive and unoriginal tasks keep being reimplemented by millions of developers worldwide. Since most UI screens can be accurately described in one or two paragraphs, it's no wonder they can be represented in much detail in a relatively small embedding vector.

While I agree at a high level, it's also important to understand that most of these demos are being carefully cherry-picked. If you are just seeing the viral demos on social media, you're going to think AI is further along than it actually is for more complex tasks. People who are non-technical and not using AI in anger to get real work done are going to be the most susceptible to this. Those in the weeds are general…

I think the examples by naysayers of what AI can’t do are often cherry-picked.

The way has been shown with the web. Now many people who would have been paying a designer are using things similar to Wix. A lot of people don’t need top of the line custom work, and most custom work isn’t top of the line. I’ve seen AI frequently, but a bit unpredictably, hit the high notes. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/07/25/hitting-the-high-n...

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The code for the demo is open-source ( https://github.com/tldraw/draw-a-ui/blob/main/app/api/toHtml... ). The prompt they use interesting: You are an expert web developer who specializes in tailwind css. A user will provide you with a low-fidelity wireframe of an application. You will return a single html file that uses HTML, tailwind css, and JavaScript to create a high fidelity website. Include any extra CSS and Ja…

What's beyond me is - how just simply predicting the next token brings up this kind of magical comprehension in a model that otherwise has no sense or is aware about itself.

Re: I think I need to go lie down

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What about that example makes it clear?

Where do you think it got the game logic from? Recall that this is an LLM; it doesn't "think", it's just cutting and pasting "likely" scraps of things from its training set. At this point, the vast majority of those scraps were human-generated, so a) many of them work, and b) copying them in this fashion is plagiarism ("the offense of taking passages from another's compositions, and publishing them, either word for w…

From someone else describing it, just as you did?
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