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A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by jacquesm »

WalterBright wrote: post #125
jacquesm wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the long term, but in the short term unscrupulous corporations far outnumber unscrupulous governments and they act much, much faster to adapt to new technology.

Unscrupulous governments can easily take everything you have and destroy you, literally. History is full of examples. Heck, you'll see examples in the newspaper every day. The rookiest cop has more power over you than Bill Gates.

Absolutely. But the rookiest cop isn't currently trying to track my whereabouts, abuse my privacy, stick a bunch of AI down my throat and in general isn't trying to make my wallet any thinner. Bill Gates and the more modern versions of Bill Gates are doing that and more.

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by bogwog »

andrewstuart wrote: post #59

This is an interesting post and the person achieved a huge amount. They should not have given up. I would have pivoted to personal pet companions. If people want virtual girlfriends then they certainly want personal dogs, cats and birds that talk to you. Enough was achieved here to raise money. Some careful redesign and development might have allowed some caching and reuse of expensive AI API interactions, reducing c…

> I would have pivoted to personal pet companions. If people want virtual girlfriends then they certainly want personal dogs, cats and birds that talk to you.

Then you have the same problem, only with a different (arguably worse...) fetish

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by toss1 »

mustacheemperor wrote: post #122
cornholio wrote: post #24

> GPT-based products, if not priced per usage, would fall into a dilemma: 1% of users consume 99% of tokens. A user from Sweden (seen from Cloudflare’s call volume) chatted with Dolores for 12 hours straight This, my friend, is a captive customer, that will pay anything to get his girlfriend back. I cringe at the potential of unethical behavior and abuse, where people fall in love with virtual entities fully owned by…

> This, my friend, is a captive customer, that will pay anything to get his girlfriend back Or potentially do anything. I'd be a little scared of having folks like this convinced I am the personal arbiter gatekeeping their access to their 'lover,' that I 'took them away.' When Replika.ai restricted erotic chat from their product, the apoplectic anguish on their subreddit was unlike any emotional reaction I've ever wi…

THIS

"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by barcode_feeder »

mazzystar wrote: post #74
shaan7 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like the author removed that phrase eventually, I can't find it.

Yes, my post was collapsed on Hacker News (disappeared suddenly from #1), which led me to think about whether I wrote something inappropriate for the times. I don't find it shameful, but it might not be suitable for the majority of readers to view.

While I understand why you'd remove it, I appreciate the initial inclusion. It's humanizing and genuine. Cool post even without it!

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by WalterBright »

jacquesm wrote: post #131
WalterBright wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unscrupulous governments can easily take everything you have and destroy you, literally. History is full of examples. Heck, you'll see examples in the newspaper every day. The rookiest cop has more power over you than Bill Gates.

Absolutely. But the rookiest cop isn't currently trying to track my whereabouts, abuse my privacy, stick a bunch of AI down my throat and in general isn't trying to make my wallet any thinner. Bill Gates and the more modern versions of Bill Gates are doing that and more.

The rookiest cop can:

1. track you with license plate readers

2. pull up any information about you

3. fine you

4. force you to stop

5. detain you

6. confiscate your car and property

7. search you and your property

8. take your phone and search it

Bill Gates can:

1. give you a free browser when you buy his operating system

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by finite_depth »

mustacheemperor wrote: post #122
cornholio wrote: post #24

> GPT-based products, if not priced per usage, would fall into a dilemma: 1% of users consume 99% of tokens. A user from Sweden (seen from Cloudflare’s call volume) chatted with Dolores for 12 hours straight This, my friend, is a captive customer, that will pay anything to get his girlfriend back. I cringe at the potential of unethical behavior and abuse, where people fall in love with virtual entities fully owned by…

> This, my friend, is a captive customer, that will pay anything to get his girlfriend back Or potentially do anything. I'd be a little scared of having folks like this convinced I am the personal arbiter gatekeeping their access to their 'lover,' that I 'took them away.' When Replika.ai restricted erotic chat from their product, the apoplectic anguish on their subreddit was unlike any emotional reaction I've ever wi…

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Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by horrible-hilde »

pizza234 wrote: post #66
ekianjo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The human mind is simply not evolutionary adapted for what's coming up. This can be said of pretty much everything humans ended up creating with technology so... not sure there's anything really new down the road. Humans adapt.

Humans adapt within boundaries. A couple of examples of things humans did not adapt to: - emphathy at distance; nowadays, a drone operator will push a button, kill a dozen people, and feel like it was a videogame - prioritizing long-term and abstract rewards, over short term ones; this is the reason why we have phenomenons like global warming - adjusting hunger to virtually unlimited availability of food All the abov…

One more: attacking people who are familiar and comfortable to you rather than the people causing your actual problems.

As a manager in tech, people who were on performance management rarely attacked me, they would find someone on the team to harass instead. Same thing with blaming a downturn in the economy on women painting their hair blue or mini skirts. Anything but blaming the powerful.

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by u32480932048 »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #36
chpatrick wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't really fuck your imaginary shoggoth girlfriend either.

You can if you have the appropriate peripheral(s) attached.

Dongles!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSC_UG5_kU

Re: A failed AI girlfriend product, and my lessons

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Post by horrible-hilde »

WalterBright wrote: post #103
cornholio wrote: post #24

> GPT-based products, if not priced per usage, would fall into a dilemma: 1% of users consume 99% of tokens. A user from Sweden (seen from Cloudflare’s call volume) chatted with Dolores for 12 hours straight This, my friend, is a captive customer, that will pay anything to get his girlfriend back. I cringe at the potential of unethical behavior and abuse, where people fall in love with virtual entities fully owned by…

> unscrupulous corporations I wonder why everyone is afraid of unscrupulous corporations, but are not concerned about use by unscrupulous governments. The latter are a lot more dangerous.

I think the former is far more dangerous particularly if a monopoly because there is no feedback loop.
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