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Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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I was never on OiNK but I ended up being a moderator on What.CD for half a year or so, made some lovely memories there and it was my first time being exposed to real nerds building unconventional things. The people I met there are the reason I installed Linux for the first time, learned how to build IRC bots and went on to dive deeper into technology as a passion and hobby. The quality of coders you'd meet there was exhilarating for a 16-17 year old. One guy was building a new BitTorrent tracker, another was exploiting CSS vulnerabilities to see what sites someone had visited and another was building a bot that would download the first 5 seconds of songs on the website and check whether the specified bitrate was correct. It was a formative time that nurtured my interests. RIP.

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I miss curating local files and playing them with Winamp (just noticed the red squiggly under that name, god I'm old). The mobile-first streaming interfaces with miles of whitespace and big touch targets annoy the heck out of me. When I'm actively listening to music I want the interface to serve that purpose; just give me a list of albums, artists and song titles and let me filter them. Easily managing a playlist is…

This is one of the reasons I'm looking at getting rid of Spotify. Not because I'm against paying to stream audio (my account is very old), but because the UI around playlist and library management, plus it's very basic search / filter functionality, is built around highlighting the Spotify service and not what I want to do with the library.

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I miss curating local files and playing them with Winamp (just noticed the red squiggly under that name, god I'm old). The mobile-first streaming interfaces with miles of whitespace and big touch targets annoy the heck out of me. When I'm actively listening to music I want the interface to serve that purpose; just give me a list of albums, artists and song titles and let me filter them. Easily managing a playlist is…

>I miss curating local files

You can just do that then. I have files in my library I encoded in the 90's. foobar2000 has been continuously developed for over 20 years and is very good at playing and managing a library. And runs well under Wine. Still, I pray for an actual Linux port. Dev is wasting his time on a Mac version.

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I miss curating local files and playing them with Winamp (just noticed the red squiggly under that name, god I'm old). The mobile-first streaming interfaces with miles of whitespace and big touch targets annoy the heck out of me. When I'm actively listening to music I want the interface to serve that purpose; just give me a list of albums, artists and song titles and let me filter them. Easily managing a playlist is…

>I miss curating local files You can just do that then. I have files in my library I encoded in the 90's. foobar2000 has been continuously developed for over 20 years and is very good at playing and managing a library. And runs well under Wine. Still, I pray for an actual Linux port. Dev is wasting his time on a Mac version.

Nowadays I don't trust SaaS and other hip cloud stuff anymore. I learned that lesson with exactly this topic. I was relatively young and naïve and left my ripped and pirated collection behind when Spotify rolled around. Partly because it was easier, partly because it felt better to pay for the service than piracy did. Back then the interface was dedicated to the desktop [0].

I still have a CD collection. Piracy feels risky (not in the least due to increased legal liability and the possibility of getting caught) so I think I'll just start ripping again.

[0] https://www.download3k.com/article_images/0/212/full_1_3991e...

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I miss curating local files and playing them with Winamp (just noticed the red squiggly under that name, god I'm old). The mobile-first streaming interfaces with miles of whitespace and big touch targets annoy the heck out of me. When I'm actively listening to music I want the interface to serve that purpose; just give me a list of albums, artists and song titles and let me filter them. Easily managing a playlist is…

For better or worse WinAmp is back after a long long hiatus - latest version 5.9.2 released on April 26, 2023, previous version was a leak of unreleased development in 2018.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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post #29

I miss curating local files and playing them with Winamp (just noticed the red squiggly under that name, god I'm old). The mobile-first streaming interfaces with miles of whitespace and big touch targets annoy the heck out of me. When I'm actively listening to music I want the interface to serve that purpose; just give me a list of albums, artists and song titles and let me filter them. Easily managing a playlist is…

This is one of the reasons I'm looking at getting rid of Spotify. Not because I'm against paying to stream audio (my account is very old), but because the UI around playlist and library management, plus it's very basic search / filter functionality, is built around highlighting the Spotify service and not what I want to do with the library.

If that alleviates your pain a bit, know that there are some Spotify playlist managers around. I never tried any of them so I won't drop names, maybe someone else can recommend something?

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Oink was used by A LOT of A-Level artists and musicians.

IIRC The only one who openly spoke about this was Trent Reznor, but having the chance to speak with big name producers it was the place to go for extremely hard to find whitelabels, clean rips of completely forgotten releases from the 50-80s... Quoting LCD Soundsystem, "I heard you have a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody".

Oink closing had a tangible effect on the choice and audio quality of samples used in several commercially-released albums.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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I miss curating local files and playing them with Winamp (just noticed the red squiggly under that name, god I'm old). The mobile-first streaming interfaces with miles of whitespace and big touch targets annoy the heck out of me. When I'm actively listening to music I want the interface to serve that purpose; just give me a list of albums, artists and song titles and let me filter them. Easily managing a playlist is…

I have recently missed that as well (after feeling very strongly about having access to all the world's music, all the time, and immediately). Fortunately I still have most of my CDs and work from home, so I can jockey my discs in and out of a ripper pretty easily, and land them on my Plex server. Plexamp isn't WinAmp, but it's got a nice CarPlay interface and lets me control the end to end, so it'll do. Maybe that would scratch your itch as well? I even found that I bought two new CDs recently of music I streamed pretty often and wanted to add to my permanent collection.

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Oink was used by A LOT of A-Level artists and musicians. IIRC The only one who openly spoke about this was Trent Reznor, but having the chance to speak with big name producers it was the place to go for extremely hard to find whitelabels, clean rips of completely forgotten releases from the 50-80s... Quoting LCD Soundsystem, "I heard you have a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody". Oink closing had a…

One of the things that got me interested in Benn Jordan and his music was the fact that he was uploading his own albums onto What.CD
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