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Oink's Pink Palace

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Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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I'm still salty about the loss of OiNK and the cruft of junk that is streaming services.

Finding new artists is near impossible with the profit focus of streaming services today. Spotify insists that you listen to product placement paid top one this week, no matter if you've just had a two hour session of death metal, it insists that you want to hear whatever top-star released last week.

Apple is similar, but on their personalization page will gladly confound artists with similar /same name, and _insists_ that Sunn-O))) is clearly _chill_ this week.

Not to mention that "related artists" suggestions are tame, at best. Unable to suggest "member of band has a new solo project out now!" or "This band has split and two new ones may be interesting".

And let's not get into the part that they still cannot actually tell you when a band you listen to _start_ a tour, or do a merch-release for some reason, features that used to exist, but do not anymore.

Yet, for some fucking reason, there's a full middle page on Apple Music dedicated to music I don't enjoy.

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post #4
post #2

Who else was here? God damn does this bring back memories.

Was so sad to see oink go. What cd did a good job but nowhere close to oink. I feel there was one more that I’m missing after oink.

What.cd was certainly better than oink in terms of the library (largely because it was started by seeders who already had the entire oink library) but was definitely missing the charm.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was so sad to see oink go. What cd did a good job but nowhere close to oink. I feel there was one more that I’m missing after oink.

WhatCD was pretty damn good, I'd say it rivalled Oink. Remember the bounty on that MSFT forensic tool? The copy of the unreleased JD Salinger novel? Both fulfilled...

Lmao I remember the bounty for COFEE was up so high.. and it was super anti-climactic when it finally showed up. Nobody was impressed

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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post #2

Who else was here? God damn does this bring back memories.

Yep. Nugz and OiNK were how I got into vinyl ripping and live tape swaps afk. Only one tracker I joined in the early 2000s now yet remains.

On an interesting note, I'm still being commissioned for analog capture and restoration projects through connections I made back then.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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post #10

RIP to a real one. Nothing since has been as good

I think part of the reason is that audio streaming is relatively cheap and easy. I was never on oink but I was on what.cd, and I remember I started using it less and less as services like Spotify got better and better in terms of quality and content.

If we compare music to movies and TV where the official ways of accessing content are such a complete shitshow, you have amazing sites like passthepopcorn and broadcasthenet, which to me are of a similar quality to what.cd was for music.

I think it just demonstrates again the fact that piracy is in large part driven by difficulty and cost of access to official releases.

I mean, I'm not badly-off, I have a very well paying job and I /could/ afford to spend the money on a load of subscriptions, it's just such a hassle. Much easier and less frustrating to just check PTP or BTN for something I want to watch.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

#17
I remember it well. Before their store went offline I ended up buying two T-shirts. I wore one and the other one might still be in the bag brand new. Has to be worth something by now.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

#18
"Piracy is the new radio". --Neal Young

The new radio is now silent, and it's just a streaming service's algorithm that decides what new music you'll be exposed to. I feel like we really lost something.

Maybe I just entered a different phase in life, but back in the heydey of piracy I actually bought a lot of albums. I followed artists and was frequently excited for new releases. With so much of my music coming from piracy, it felt important to support bands I really wanted to hear more from. Now I spend a small fraction of what I used to spend on a streaming service and that's all.

Re: Oink's Pink Palace

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Oink filled a void at a perfect time in music.

I grew up in the 90's and CDs typically ran in the $15-20 range. This was when minimum wage was something like $5.15 an hour. So it would take 3-4 hours of work to buy a CD. This led to having to really pine over purchase decisions. Pre-Napster, this meant using a few things as filters: the radio, label compilations albums that featured a lot of songs by artists and were usually cheaper to buy, or pirating via IRC, which was fun at the time, but looking back was quite tedious.

Then Napster came and went. In it's wake, consumer expectations changed but nothing really worked as well as Napster. It's replacements were unreliable, were risky for installing adware/spyware, and there were lots of scare tactics by the music industry going after downloaders in court.

This was also around the time of the iPod but pre-iPhone, so you could carry around digital music but it wasn't really streamed. At this time, I had an iPod but mostly consumed music in my car through burned CDs.

Enter Oink. Oink brought you back to the time where you consume full albums instead of single songs but also solved a ton of problems with music sharing programs -- the shady software, unreliable availability of songs, inconsistent, if not totally absent tagging, shitty encoding, etc. Since there was still some work involved in downloading and burning the albums, you had to still make some choice over what to listen to, but not labor over it like a few years back when a CD meant half a days work. Oink had SO much stuff as well. I cannot recall a time when I didn't find something I wanted. Even though it was stealing, it felt like you were getting something of quality and not taking a gamble on something from a music sharing site.

I don't really recall what I did with music from Oink's shutdown in 2007 until Spotify came to the U.S. a few years later. I got my first iPhone in 2008 and buying music from the iTunes store became much more appealing with it instantly showing up on your device, so I did more of that. I remember using Rhapsody on Desktop for a while and later on the iPhone as well, a year or so before Spotify took over music.

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