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Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by untog »

methoddk wrote: post #25
untog wrote: post #4

Arrogance, I don't care about. The shameless corruption, I do. PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments- it's taking the system that got Arrington fired and putting it on steroids. It works out great for the investment company, it works out great for their companies, the only person it doesn't work out for is that actual rea…

Posts from TC/Pando/Anyone affiliated with either shouldn't be allowed on Hacker News. There has not been a single post from either site that is of any use to us here. They are biased. They are cry babies. They want attention. Stop giving it to them. TC & Pando stories should be banned from HN. Add.: Maybe it's my introverted nature, but it really seems that this industry is heading to a place where if you aren't a c…

it really seems that this industry is heading to a place where if you aren't a complete arrogant ass without shame who can strut around going "Look at me I'm so cool! Look what I do!", your project won't get any mainstream attention. It makes me sad.

I don't think that's "this industry", I think it's "every industry". And I'm not sure it's a new thing, either.

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by shareme »

nikcub wrote: post #24

Those numbers sounded too low, which prompted me to look into it. They were both featured on other editions of Techcrunch, not the main site. One was on Techcrunch UK[1], with a short post, the other on Techcrunch TV (way down with a single link in a short story)[2], both before the merge. To say that it is important to the point of the story to mention that they weren't featured on the main Techcrunch site is an und…

But, and here is the detail that we need here..

Of posts on TC:

1 Less than 20% make it to techmeme 2. By visitor counts TC only has had two very successful writers MA and S.. 3 TC posts that are short do in fact only send referrals in the dozens..

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by jilebedev »

> Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

No. Time to stop disguising attacks at media outlets as constructive advice.

If the author had wanted to be constructive, the article would have read along these lines: "It's a tough problem to find out what media your audience consumes, and then cater your PR toward that media outlet. Here's how we screwed that up, here's what we did to fix it, and here's how you can avoid making the same mistake".

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by Aloisius »

untog wrote: post #4

Arrogance, I don't care about. The shameless corruption, I do. PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments- it's taking the system that got Arrington fired and putting it on steroids. It works out great for the investment company, it works out great for their companies, the only person it doesn't work out for is that actual rea…

  PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups.
  They're basically buying coverage for their investments
I would like to point out that HackerNews is run by a VC firm and YC alumni effectively get free coverage here.

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by tptacek »

methoddk wrote: post #30
tptacek wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not going to happen, because those sites are useful to YC companies.

Then there needs to be an alternative. Anything Arrington, Lacy, etc. are affiliated with will be plagued with corruption, terrible writers, and self-important nonsense.

There doesn't need to be an alternative if what we have now is effective for YC companies. This isn't a moral issue. You might have an easier time finding an alternative to HN.

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by web_chops »

Aloisius wrote: post #34
untog wrote: post #4

Arrogance, I don't care about. The shameless corruption, I do. PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments- it's taking the system that got Arrington fired and putting it on steroids. It works out great for the investment company, it works out great for their companies, the only person it doesn't work out for is that actual rea…

PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments I would like to point out that HackerNews is run by a VC firm and YC alumni effectively get free coverage here.

But everyone gets free coverage hear. Not to mention great feedback. We don't have to ask anyone to submit ShowHN articles.

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by victork2 »

Aloisius wrote: post #34
untog wrote: post #4

Arrogance, I don't care about. The shameless corruption, I do. PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments- it's taking the system that got Arrington fired and putting it on steroids. It works out great for the investment company, it works out great for their companies, the only person it doesn't work out for is that actual rea…

PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments I would like to point out that HackerNews is run by a VC firm and YC alumni effectively get free coverage here.

Yep, and that's one effect that I call "community myopia". This is a very wide spread phenomenon and it can be seen in almost every online community: members of a community have problems looking back at the support of their community and criticize it.

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by samstave »

Aloisius wrote: post #34
untog wrote: post #4

Arrogance, I don't care about. The shameless corruption, I do. PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments- it's taking the system that got Arrington fired and putting it on steroids. It works out great for the investment company, it works out great for their companies, the only person it doesn't work out for is that actual rea…

PandoDaily, in particular, is funded by VC firms that also fund tech startups. They're basically buying coverage for their investments I would like to point out that HackerNews is run by a VC firm and YC alumni effectively get free coverage here.

But the difference is that HN content is posted by any random user. It is not employing a staff of self righteous, egotistical reporters to post crap about YC firms.

The content on HN is more honest, if you will...

Re: Time to ditch the arrogant tech blogs

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Post by web_chops »

bishnu wrote: post #21
untog wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it depends on perspective. If you are working for a tech startup, it's The Reason. If you a reader, it's not. I figure there are a lot more readers than there are startup employees.

Disagree. If it's "bad" to provide incomplete or one-sided content to a reader, then we ought to get rid of 99% of the internet. Ask yourself this - if PandoDaily remained exactly as it was but financial backers weren't VCs then how damaging would it be? Not very. Just another crap blog in a sea of crap blogs, hurting no one.

Nice point. Essentially these blogs serve as (indirectly) paid news with out the heading 'paid news'.
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