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Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

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Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

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One of my favorite experiences from my daughter’s earliest years was the realization that she was able to think about, describe, and deliberately do things much earlier than I realized. More plainly: once I recognized she was doing something deliberately, I often went back and realized she had been doing that same thing for days or weeks prior. We encountered this a lot with words but also physical abilities, like fi…

We did this, and I'd add that repeating what they say back to them so they get that feedback is important too. It's startling to see the difference between our kids and their class mates, who's parents don't talk them (I know this from observing at the countless birthday parties, school events, and sports events). Talking to kids is like watering flower, they bloom into beautiful beings.

Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

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sigh Neural networks are not based on how neurons work. They do not copy aspects of us. They call them neural networks because they are sort of conceptually like networks of neurons in the brain but they’re so different as to make false the statement that they are based on neurons.

Sigh... Everyone knows artificial neurons are not like biological neurons. The network is the important part, which really is analogous to the brain, while what came before (SVMs and random forests) are nothing like it.

Sigh... Every man knows the mechanisms of the mind are yet unlike the cogs and pinions of clockwork. It remains the machinery, the relation of spring and escapement, that is most relevant. Hitherto in human history, I think, such structure has not been described.

Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

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I suspect people will argue about whether AIs are truly conscious or just stochastic parrots even as all human-dominated tasks are replaced by AIs. The AIs will be creating masterwork art and literature personalized for each person better than anything Shakespeare ever wrote or Michaelangelo ever sculpted, but we'll console ourselves that at least we're _really_ conscious and they're just stochastic parrots.

> The AIs will be creating masterwork art and literature personalized for each person better than anything Shakespeare ever wrote or Michaelangelo ever sculpted I don't think it will. Art is truth and AI is a golem replicating humanity.

It depends on what you value in art. Some value the only artifact per se; others the story around it. Unfortunately, I don't see too many complaints that image generators have no human artist behind them.

Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

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Do we? Humans can observe new information, but that's obviously not that unique. We can reason about existing information, creating new hypotheses, but that is arguably a compression of existing information. When we act on them and observe the effects they become information, but that's not us creating the information (and LLMs can both act on the environment and have the effects fed back to their input to observe, s…

let's say you wanted to count the number of coins on a table you organize them into piles of ten this created new information

More like you converted information you had about energy powering your muscles into that one - resulting in less total information for you in the end.

Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

#128

Nice article, great presentation. However, it's a bit annoying that the focus of the AI anxiety is how AI is replacing us and the resolution is that we embrace our humanity. Fair enough, but at least to me the main focus in my AI anxiety is that it will take my job - honestly don't really care about it doing my shitty art.

Your job is your art.

Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

#129

When my toddler was first learning to talk, we had some pictures of felines hanging on the walls; some were cats and others were kittens. She quickly generalized; henceforth, both of them were "catten".

My toddler understood that places to buy things were called stores and understood eating - so restaurants were deemed 'eating stores'. And we just went with that for a long time and now they are grown we still call them eating stores for fun sometimes. :)

Re: Is my toddler a stochastic parrot?

#130

Humans have a long history of comparing ourselves, and the universe, to our latest technological advancement. We used to be glorified clocks (as was the universe), then we were automatons, then computers, then NPC's, and now AI's (in particular LLM's). Which BTW I don't think is a completely absurd comparison, see https://mattasher.substack.com/p/ais-killer-app

Step A: build a machine which reflects a reduced and simplified model of how some part of a human works

Step B: turn it on its head "the human brain is nothing more than... "

It's a bit tautological.

The worry is that there's a Step C: Humans actually start to behave as simple as said machine.

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