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The Python Sofware Foundation Receives Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub

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Re: The Python Sofware Foundation Receives Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub

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QwertyPi wrote: post #19
hospitalJail wrote: post #7

I feel like the governments of the world need to put resources into some of these major spokes of technology. I know 1B is a lot of money, but the US throws that around. Imagine 1B into python. Nah, don't even imagine that, its too much money. Imagine 50M. I'm somewhat surprised big tech hasnt lobbied for something like this. Maybe they like their silos. Everyone gets a cut, don't shake the boat.

Python is of course a major boon to humanity, but the things that need funding are typically things that corporations aren't using. It's our reliance on private spokes of technology (think: app stores & sales platforms, operating systems, hardware designs, etc) that are major risks to the long-term stability of our society and economy.

Those are open ended problems though.

Something like python's GIL issue is something with a clear end game. It just needs resources.

Re: The Python Sofware Foundation Receives Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub

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Post by screye »

hospitalJail wrote: post #7

I feel like the governments of the world need to put resources into some of these major spokes of technology. I know 1B is a lot of money, but the US throws that around. Imagine 1B into python. Nah, don't even imagine that, its too much money. Imagine 50M. I'm somewhat surprised big tech hasnt lobbied for something like this. Maybe they like their silos. Everyone gets a cut, don't shake the boat.

I mean, MOJO has 100 million in funding and is 'supposedly' building a faster and better python.

Programming improvements are all about hiring a small group of highly talented engineers. Funding a lab of 10 tenured R1 level PL researchers to work on python fulltime will likely cost $5 million/yr and should be more than enough for whatever 'leap forwards' people want to facilitate.

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Post by the_powerless »

TylerLives wrote: post #23

> fortified by a strong Code of Conduct "The manager of a fruit-and-vegetable shop places in his window, among the onions and carrots, the slogan: "Workers of the world, unite!" Why does he do it? What is he trying to communicate to the world? Is he genuinely enthusiastic about the idea of unity among the workers of the world? Is his enthusiasm so great that he feels an irrepressible impulse to acquaint the public wi…

>Vaclav Havel - The Power of the Powerless

I read that book during 2020. It should be obligatory reading for anyone who appreciates Orwell's 1984, and provides a concise, first-hand account of how humans manufacture and sustain the systems of their own oppression.

One of the most fascinating insights was that those at the top of the power system are not the most free, as you might think, but rather the most constrained. Those at the very bottom are the only ones free to act exactly as they wish (hence the title).

There is also insightful discussion whether dissidents should act within or without the system, and raises the point that "the system" itself provides powerful tools that anyone can wield (eg, a CoC).

Re: The Python Sofware Foundation Receives Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub

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Post by diarrhea »

ryanianian wrote: post #15
mjw1007 wrote: post #11

I think we already give Github far too much influence over the free software world without also paying attention to who they see fit to hand awards to. I wonder whether Github would have considered the PSF to be "wonderfully welcoming" if they hadn't switched from their self-hosted bug tracker to Github's offering last year. Personally I don't find being asked to read [1] before I can submit a bug report at all welco…

> we already give Github far too much influence over the free software Yup. I was at GitHub Universe last week. It's very clear GitHub (Microsoft) is trying to become like AWS but for the SDLC instead of for runtime. Soon we'll all be using GitHub full-time to do all our coding in the browser with integrated runtime envs and CI and AI along for the ride. You get a taste with some fancy OSS demo projects which they do…

The effect is extremely strong. One factor is that almost everything works identically between work and personal environments. Same git, same CI, same settings, same dependabot, same PRs, same everything. My personal open source projects get it for free, at work the employer pays.

In most other cases of technology choices, work and personal environments can differ a lot (languages, operating system, development machine, database systems, …). That makes choices less sticky.

Re: The Python Sofware Foundation Receives Wonderfully Welcoming Award from GitHub

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Post by the_powerless »

> it's a community that embraces diversity and inclusion at its core. Through initiatives like PyCon Charlas, PSF breaks language barriers, providing a platform for Spanish-speaking contributors.

This is a comically US-centric "diversity initiative". Just goes to show how difficult it is to break out of that mindset. Then again, the US is both a vast and an isolated country, so I cut ya'll some slack.

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