public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are
> public transit is the answer To which question? Surely not to "how do i get from home to work as fast as possible without stepping in the rain?" nor to "how do i take my family, two coolers, and a kayak camping for a weekend?"
Feds Have No Idea How Many Times Cruise Driverless Cars Hit Pedestrians
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd say it's relevant as the investment in for-profit transit-as-tech companies has coincided with the chronic under-funding of public transit. Focusing on the US here, but if public transit was accepted as a public good, and the populace accepted that funding things for the public good was an acceptable use of government funds, then these companies wouldn't be as sound of an investment for VCs.
I agree: The solution is to change government spending so that public goods are sufficient to render other options moot. But the VC investment didn't cause the underinvestment of infrastructure. Rather, they stepped in to fill the void with other viable options when government initiatives failed to materialize. Example: where's my high-speed rail?!
It's definitely one of those things where the goal is clear but the changes necessary to get there are complex.
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How do you think a significant chunk of people outside of US live? Commute in public transit within city limits, go camping in your car… The problem in NA, we planned public transit so bad that it is very inconvenient to do anything. The second it becomes a better choice than driving, it’ll be used even more. Like it’s a no-brainer for me to ever drive while i’m within the city limits of Vancouver, but for hikes and…
> Commute in public transit within city limits How does that address my rain question? Cause i'd rather be dry than virtue signal (YMMV)
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you think a significant chunk of people outside of US live? Commute in public transit within city limits, go camping in your car… The problem in NA, we planned public transit so bad that it is very inconvenient to do anything. The second it becomes a better choice than driving, it’ll be used even more. Like it’s a no-brainer for me to ever drive while i’m within the city limits of Vancouver, but for hikes and…
> Commute in public transit within city limits How does that address my rain question? Cause i'd rather be dry than virtue signal (YMMV)
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Literally nothing about autonomous vehicles stops cities from improving public transit. BART predates Cruise by like 50 years, and it took them most of that time to get the noise below 100dB and add mobile payment support. Maybe in another 50 years we'll be able to get to all the cities with >100k people in the bay on it, if we're lucky.
> Literally nothing about autonomous vehicles stops cities from improving public transit. What do you mean by 'literally' here? Seems like these ride-sharing companies do have impact on public transit. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/do-uber-a... https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/07/25/uber-and-lyft-are-ove...
I guess I just don't understand why you'd say they prevent cities from improving public transit.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Literally nothing about autonomous vehicles stops cities from improving public transit. BART predates Cruise by like 50 years, and it took them most of that time to get the noise below 100dB and add mobile payment support. Maybe in another 50 years we'll be able to get to all the cities with >100k people in the bay on it, if we're lucky.
> Literally nothing about autonomous vehicles stops cities from improving public transit. What do you mean by 'literally' here? Seems like these ride-sharing companies do have impact on public transit. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/do-uber-a... https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/07/25/uber-and-lyft-are-ove...
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#48public transit is the answer, not stuffing a bunch of sensors into a single car but nobody's getting venture capital for that, nobody's making a profit off of it, so here we are
> public transit is the answer To which question? Surely not to "how do i get from home to work as fast as possible without stepping in the rain?" nor to "how do i take my family, two coolers, and a kayak camping for a weekend?"
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you think a significant chunk of people outside of US live? Commute in public transit within city limits, go camping in your car… The problem in NA, we planned public transit so bad that it is very inconvenient to do anything. The second it becomes a better choice than driving, it’ll be used even more. Like it’s a no-brainer for me to ever drive while i’m within the city limits of Vancouver, but for hikes and…
> Commute in public transit within city limits How does that address my rain question? Cause i'd rather be dry than virtue signal (YMMV)
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It's not easy to act on the information in a car. But the technology is sure as hell advanced enough to tell if you hit someone. I mean it's literally video you can look at it
But is anyone reviewing these videos? Just having hundreds or thousands of hours of videos doesn't mean you know what's in those videos.