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Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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I'm in batch 8 for one of these and simply can not wait to get to start using it (my current T460s has really started feeling slow in the last year).

I hope you'll write about your experience with the Framework when it arrives. I am still content with my T460s, but it won't last forever.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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post #56

Oddly specific question, but can anybody confirm whether the AX210 (no vPro) wifi works with the AMD motherboards? I've seen some pretty bad reports about the realtek chip they're defaulting to on the AMD systems, and I already have the AX210, so if I could just keep using it, that would be ideal.

The ax210 does work in the ryzen motherboard but just ok. I had persistent errors relating to the card in dmesg and occasional disconnects.

The wifi that ships with the ryzen framework is made by MediaTek, not Realtek, and it's been working smoothly since I installed it.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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post #4

Got one here, AMA!

Is the fingerprint sensor working? How reliable/fast is it?

The fingerprint sensor is shared across all framework laptops. It was about as fast and reliable as you can expect a fingerprint reader to be.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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It's been good for me; I think it'll be great soon. AMD support on Linux is the biggest issue. The upgrade experience from the Intel 12th gen to a Ryzen 5 took about a half-hour, doing only the mainboard and no display or hinge upgrades, and I was already familiar with the internals from assembling it as a DIY. It's not trivially easy, and there were a few frustrating moments that aren't unique to the Framework (ok,…

Wifi antenna. Damn. Align the connector with the socket. Push it forward/up then press down into the socket. I did a replacement once and I was about to break it until I saw a few videos and a text description of it.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

#66

It's been good for me; I think it'll be great soon. AMD support on Linux is the biggest issue. The upgrade experience from the Intel 12th gen to a Ryzen 5 took about a half-hour, doing only the mainboard and no display or hinge upgrades, and I was already familiar with the internals from assembling it as a DIY. It's not trivially easy, and there were a few frustrating moments that aren't unique to the Framework (ok,…

I've also experienced the GPU issues and sleep issues, but for me, these were solved by updating to bios v3.03

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

#67

I'm in batch 8 for one of these and simply can not wait to get to start using it (my current T460s has really started feeling slow in the last year).

Fellow batch 8er! I got the 8-core AMD option, super excited. My 2016 Razer finally shat the bed after I attempted to clean the keyboard...now it "turns on" but the fans don't spin and the BIOS never loads. I read it might be the fuses on the motherboard, but I tested them all and continuity is fine. I was originally a bit hesitant to go from a GPU-enabled laptop back to integrated, but realized that almost all the games I played on my laptop didn't need a GPU anyway. My Razer battery would blow up every once in a while and I suspected it had to do with the excessive heat of gaming, so I stopped pushing it.

In the meantime I got my desktop set up again (was stuck on Windows 7, now on linux) and got some horrible Asus laptop for when I'm not at my desk.

The only thing I'm worried about is all of my current setup is on X and it seems for any real display scaling that Wayland is the way to go, so I'm not excited about switching everything over (I'm on i3 and probably a few other tools/scripts that rely solely on X). I guess we'll see how it works out.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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I got a unit from batch one and experienced some gpu issues and sleep/wake issues, but they went away after updating to bios v3.03. It's been fine since then.

Mediatek wifi is basically as good as the ax210 in my 12th gen.

The CPU uplift over the 12th gen i7 is immense. I foolishly forgot to do before/after compilation times on my usual projects, but in general things seem to build significantly faster (Medium-Large sized Typescript + Rust codebase). My workloads also don't seem to get the new cpu as hot as my 12th gen intel cpu got.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

#69
post #4

Got one here, AMA!

Do the brightness keys on the keyboard work? What's the battery drain like when the laptop is asleep?

They work, but on gnome you might have to disable the `hid_sensor_hub` kernel module.

Re: Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen 7040 Series Makes for a Great Linux Laptop

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It's been good for me; I think it'll be great soon. AMD support on Linux is the biggest issue. The upgrade experience from the Intel 12th gen to a Ryzen 5 took about a half-hour, doing only the mainboard and no display or hinge upgrades, and I was already familiar with the internals from assembling it as a DIY. It's not trivially easy, and there were a few frustrating moments that aren't unique to the Framework (ok,…

I think the bigger problem for the community is that the M3 absolutely spanks it in performance. https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_7_7840u-...

It's not just a matter of poor drivers and not being able to wake up from sleep. You typical Mac lasts for tens of hours on battery and runs faster than Intel/AMD's flagship laptop grade processors. This is a big deal and if the x64 hardware people don't up their game soon, the Linux on desktop community will be hurt as users would move to the Apple ecosystem, despite the non-free nature. The gap has grown too big.

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