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Got one here, AMA!
How's the keyboard? Have you maybe used Thinkpads to compare?
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I currently have a 12th Gen Intel Framework. How much of an improvement in everyday use do you see?
Most of the improvement is in gaming and GPU-intensive work, which is why I upgraded. Baldur's Gate 3 via Steam/Proton at 1240p went from ~30 fps with settings cranked down on Intel to 40-60 at high/ultra. I didn't upgrade the battery and the battery life is similar (as in, not great; about 4-5 hours of coding while occasionally maxing all cores, 2 hours or less of sustained gaming), but it's also hard to judge becau…
I get shit battery life (~3 hours), probably because I have 30 Firefox windows open with a total of 2k tabs or so (my fault, I should clean it up), so at least one core is at 25% or so all the time, or worse. And of course compiling things or watching video drags that down real fast.
I can't justify another upgrade after having this one for only a year (especially since I'll need new RAM), but maybe I'll think about an AMD board in 2025 or so.
I'm running NixOS + KDE on the AMD framework and surprisingly it worked perfectly out of the box. All I had to do was disable secure boot to get it running, and after install I had to configure the global scale in display settings to 200% so it looked right. No weird hacks needed at all -- the 23.05 installer just worked, including wifi, which apparently isn't true for Windows 11.
It's been good for me; I think it'll be great soon. AMD support on Linux is the biggest issue. The upgrade experience from the Intel 12th gen to a Ryzen 5 took about a half-hour, doing only the mainboard and no display or hinge upgrades, and I was already familiar with the internals from assembling it as a DIY. It's not trivially easy, and there were a few frustrating moments that aren't unique to the Framework (ok,…
That's because Framework doesn't want to risk getting liable for damaged power supplies. With a battery, the power management circuitry can make sure that, bar an outright shortcut, the load on the PSU will not ever be more than the allowed power. Without it, there is no buffer.
At the risk of sounding negative I have to dissent. Linux on the Framework is great * if* you use GNOME or KDE. Those two DE's specifically support Fractional scaling in Wayland the best I've been using XFCE for the better part of 15 years meanwhile. Its Wayland support is a permanent unfortunate "work-in-progress" (apparently they only have two full-time developers for the whole project?) and I'd assume many other l…
At the risk of sounding negative I have to dissent. Linux on the Framework is great * if* you use GNOME or KDE. Those two DE's specifically support Fractional scaling in Wayland the best I've been using XFCE for the better part of 15 years meanwhile. Its Wayland support is a permanent unfortunate "work-in-progress" (apparently they only have two full-time developers for the whole project?) and I'd assume many other l…
Nice, nearly 20 years for me.
> (apparently they only have two full-time developers for the whole project?)
We actually have zero full time developers. I'm probably the closest thing to a full-time developer as I have a lot of free time on my hands these days, but even then I don't work on Xfce enough to call it full time. And we only have two people working on Wayland support, and so that's even less than the non-full-time each of us put in.
> Its Wayland support is a permanent unfortunate "work-in-progress"
We've probably made more progress in the past 6 months than all the time prior, combined. Things are coming along, but it'll probably be another 1-2 years before it's usable, and only "stable" in time for the 4.22.0 release at the end of 2026. And that's still all aspirational; it may not materialize in that time.
It turns out that the Wayland protocol is super limited, and a lot of things that you could do easily on X11 you essentially have to re-invent from scratch. And that's before we even talk about turning xfwm4 into a Wayland compositor. (Some rando has forked xfwm4 and is building a Wayland compositor with it, but has chosen not to collaborate with us at all, so it's unclear if their work will ever be mergeable.)
But that's what happens when you're a developer for a software project that has no corporate sponsorship or people hired specifically to work on it. Feel free to contribute; we could definitely use the help!
Anyhow: I run Xfce on a Framework 13, and it's fine. I've set UI scaling to 2x, and I've added a custom modeline to X11 for 2712x1805 (1.2x native). Big downside is apparently this turns off the iGPU's ability to eliminate tearing. I suspect there's a way to fix that, but I haven't had the motivation to dig into it (I wonder if simply using a more-even scaling factor like 1.25 would do it, even if things would appear a little smaller than I'd like).
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I currently have a 12th Gen Intel Framework. How much of an improvement in everyday use do you see?
Most of the improvement is in gaming and GPU-intensive work, which is why I upgraded. Baldur's Gate 3 via Steam/Proton at 1240p went from ~30 fps with settings cranked down on Intel to 40-60 at high/ultra. I didn't upgrade the battery and the battery life is similar (as in, not great; about 4-5 hours of coding while occasionally maxing all cores, 2 hours or less of sustained gaming), but it's also hard to judge becau…
I'm running NixOS + KDE on the AMD framework and surprisingly it worked perfectly out of the box. All I had to do was disable secure boot to get it running, and after install I had to configure the global scale in display settings to 200% so it looked right. No weird hacks needed at all -- the 23.05 installer just worked, including wifi, which apparently isn't true for Windows 11.
Oddly specific question, but can anybody confirm whether the AX210 (no vPro) wifi works with the AMD motherboards? I've seen some pretty bad reports about the realtek chip they're defaulting to on the AMD systems, and I already have the AX210, so if I could just keep using it, that would be ideal.