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Note to self: learn a lisp. Lisp people appear to be having more fun than the rest of us.
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While I like Janet, and find it to be a lovely little language; I think it's important to note that it lacks lists and cons cells, and so as a result some people don't label it a lisp, and programming in it is unlike other lisp languages. It's similar, because the syntax is similar and the macros and various forms are lifted straight from lisps; but the feel of programming in it is very much like programming in C, an…
Feature not a big in my book. A linked list is almost never the right answer. Certainly shouldn't be the default.
And yet a subset of the linked list called a tree is usually the right answer to problems.
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There's literally dozens of us! If you're serious about learning a Lisp but motivated more by, as you say, "having more fun" rather than, say, landing a six-figure job writing it professionally... then may I recommend Janet[0] for your consideration. Janet is an embeddably-small, yet surprisingly batteries-included Lisp implemented in pure C. In terms of syntax and core library it borrows more directly from Clojure t…
Since you mentioned this, what would you say would be the right Lisp for more pragmatic, cynical reasons? What Lisp should we learn if we want to make money from it?
That said, I don't think it matters much. A developer familiar with some lispy language (and perhaps functional programming) should be able to quickly pickup any other lispy language. And the developers that make the most money have probably used a lot of programming languages, with different paradigms.
[0]: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#top-paying-technologie...
[1]: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-top-paying-tec...
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Feature not a big in my book. A linked list is almost never the right answer. Certainly shouldn't be the default.
> A linked list is almost never the right answer. And yet a subset of the linked list called a tree is usually the right answer to problems.
A lesson I learned long ago is that if something isn't fun, I need to turn it into a compiler. I want to frame this sentence and hang it on my wall.
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While I like Janet, and find it to be a lovely little language; I think it's important to note that it lacks lists and cons cells, and so as a result some people don't label it a lisp, and programming in it is unlike other lisp languages. It's similar, because the syntax is similar and the macros and various forms are lifted straight from lisps; but the feel of programming in it is very much like programming in C, an…
Feature not a big in my book. A linked list is almost never the right answer. Certainly shouldn't be the default.
In the contrived example, a linked list is clearly a terrible option for manipulating a sorted set of integers. Modern computers can slice and dice contiguous integers with vectorized routines, and those benefits are lost with linked lists that are storing their data haphazardly across the heap.
If your problem space is best defined with contiguously-stored numbers, then for sure, don't use linked lists. Most lisps will happily provide you with vectors and arrays for these use cases.
Stealing that expression.
Note to self: learn a lisp. Lisp people appear to be having more fun than the rest of us.
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Well this was in real life, so you aren't going to get records. Wikipedia suggests lol is more like 40 years old, but you actually have a written record to back that up. All I have is my own experience, I wasn't really on the internet until the 2000s so I wouldn't have come across lol until mobile phones and texting became widespread (around 1999/2000). "I accidentally a" would have been in the 1995 - 2000 time frame…
I’ll stand as witness to the fact that ordinary people playfully tortured the language towards humorously cute long, long before one TRS-80 could call another over the phone. The tech just helped these people find and feed off of each other.
A lesson I learned long ago is that if something isn't fun, I need to turn it into a compiler. I want to frame this sentence and hang it on my wall.
Do we consider macros compilers now? :)