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Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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At age 54, I'm now in the final quarter of my life. That assumption inspires me. It discourages procrastination, and encourages me to let go of plans that probably won't happen, since I'm almost out of time. “To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time.” ― Leonard Bernstein

> At age 54, I'm now in the final quarter of my life.

Not on average. Life expectancy such as "73" without further qualification means "life expectancy when born today". Since you already made it until 54, your life expectancy is higher than 73 (probably somewhere close to 80).

If you are not convinced outright, think of what your life expectancy is if you were 74.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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What precisely is causing Americans to die so much earlier than Europeans? I know obesity, healthcare access and gun violence play a factor, but is there anything else?

Americans live on average 2 years less than Europeans. [1] 37% of US adults and 16% of EU adults are obese (2014). [2] Even moderate obesity reduces life expectancy by 3 years. Severe obesity is 10 years. [3] Factor in the not-obsese-but-overweight, and you explain basically the entire difference. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/health/american-life-expectan... [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7670…

More recent stats

US [1]

Percent of adults aged 20 and over with obesity: 41.9% (2017-March 2020) Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 73.6%

EU [2] [3]

Obese: 16% Percent of adults aged 18 and over with overweight, including obesity: 52.7%

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm [2] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... [3] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/hlth_ehis_bm1...

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

#75
post #51

What precisely is causing Americans to die so much earlier than Europeans? I know obesity, healthcare access and gun violence play a factor, but is there anything else?

This thread (and the accompanying article) are very informative (and damning): https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799627128143873?... Drugs and road accidents are other disproportionate contributors to the US's awful life expectancy. At the risk of being a wiseass, at least some of this is Americans taking Ben Franklin's aphorism about liberty and safety far too seriously. Sometimes, trading some liberty for…

For those who haven't looked, this analysis is very useful.

Almost all the gap is caused by the higher rate of deaths of under 25yos in the US.

From [1] the largest differences appears to be:

1) Road deaths

2) Homicide, suicide and gun deaths

3) Drug related deaths.

[1] https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799922583326720/...

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

#76
Anecdotally with my family and some family friends the men have outlived the women in more recent years. My sister was dead at 50, my mother died 10 years before my father, four close family friends outlived their wives, my wifes father outlived her mother etc.. I know very few where the wives outlived the husbands.

Obviously the stats tell a different story across society, but I found this interesting.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If men and women are equal, the problems of one are also problems for the other and both must work towards the solutions.

If men's problems are not the concern of women and vice versa, that implies men and women are not equal.

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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post #18

At age 54, I'm now in the final quarter of my life. That assumption inspires me. It discourages procrastination, and encourages me to let go of plans that probably won't happen, since I'm almost out of time. “To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time.” ― Leonard Bernstein

Forget about life expectancy. What are the odds you'll want to do big things and be able to do them after age 70?

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the first two - 0.01% of us die to guns, which isn't nothing - but not enough to move averages significantly. Maybe also cars? I assume Americans drive more than most other countries.

Well, maybe like 1% of deaths if you include suicides as "gun violence" (kinda weird, but is often stated), maybe 2% if you focus on only men. But yea, it's a literal nonfactor in aggregate life expectancy. Amdahl's law applies here too.

According to [1], "homicide, suicide and gun deaths" is the 2nd highest factor in explaining the difference.

[1] https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799922583326720/...

Re: Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years less than women, study

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post #20

What precisely is causing Americans to die so much earlier than Europeans? I know obesity, healthcare access and gun violence play a factor, but is there anything else?

It's the first two - 0.01% of us die to guns, which isn't nothing - but not enough to move averages significantly. Maybe also cars? I assume Americans drive more than most other countries.

That’s per annum. The rate decreases by age, but over a lifetime the cumulative odds start to add up to a more significant number.

Also, by killing men in their twenties it affects the average more than something like heart disease that usually kills men over 50.

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