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The laptop that won't die

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Re: The laptop that won't die

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Clearly you haven’t tried Apple Silicon laptops

I haven't and they are a very new and recent creation also windows games on desktop better get it? Every single time on this site you people just LOVE your M1s dont you. Desktops generally offer better performance, get it? Also pheripherals

Apple Silicon truly is phenomenal for dev stuff. But gaming ... oh well. And you obviously can't heat your room with them, so your feet may feel cold. ;)

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I had this from another medium post I tried to access today. Have they locked down everything recently? Sounds like possible enshittification.

That’s a choice the author makes.

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This is another Thinkpad festival post? Let me just cold you down a bit by telling you that a 12-year-old laptop still kicking isn't that big of a deal. I have this DELL Studio laptop released back in September, 2009, and it can still kick very well too if I decide to recruit it back to my "workforce". I retired it just 3~4 years ago because I got a T480. Heck, some of my code (old versions) for the same project that…

That's not normal for Dell. Believe me. We bought a boat load of very recent Precision series and getting 12-18 months out of them would be considered a miracle. I've got a dead 5550 in the cupboard (thermal failure) and my 7670 is dying now as well. Also I have so many blown up Dell docks I look like a far Eastern recycling slum at the moment. Their monitors are good though!

I don't know. I have a couple of old Dell laptops that still work fine, a 2008 Core 2 Duo Latitude and a 2010 1st gen Core i3 Alienware M15x. I didn't even bother to replace the HDD or upgrade the RAM, just switched them from Windows to Debian.

Re: The laptop that won't die

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My "just won't die" laptop is my trusty MacBook Pro 2012 pre-retina. I have owned it for 8 years and it is still perfectly usable. I can get it to run Ventura with OCLP and honestly, it is only that I now really, really need something with Apple Silicon for dev work that I am considering an upgrade. It is a beast and I believe it even has the original battery (I got it used, so not 100% sure.)

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I feel like this story is also relevant to the 2012 MacBook Pro and Air. My partner kept her air going for more than 10 years, and I saw people who for whatever reason (maybe keyboard or Touch Bar) hold on to those pros long past normal. So consider that another anecdote. Real data would be great here.

2012 macbook pro checking in. 16gb of ram and two drive bays (swapping out the optical drive) and its perfectly fine for what I throw at it.

2011 here, rest is the same. Outlasted other newer MacBooks I have.

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Imo for your usecase you can get a desktop+macbook. Use desktop when home, use macbook+some remote control when traveling.

I kept trying to convince myself to buy a desktop but the difference in performance from a laptop isn't so staggering to make up for the loss of convenience. It's easier to move a laptop and I can carry it to places where I don't have an external monitor. Gotta have fantasies though. "When I'll have enough expendable money" I'll build myself some monster configuration. Which I'll probably use to run Geekbench (provin…

I use a MacBook and I bought a used €15 PC recently, and that PC covers most of my use-cases while stationary.

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I've had bouts of battling hot laptop bags. It's almost always been software other than Microsoft or Intel causing the device to wake and start chugging away heavily. Usually some misconfigured security tool or bad drivers constantly sending wake events. Personally I really like having my device automatically connect to the Wi-Fi when I get to the office, reconnect VPN, get chat and email synced, get ssh sessions rec…

IMHO if Microsoft wanted this it is clearly them to blame. It is a bit like going back to the MS-DOS era where applications should behave as there was no memory protection. The simple/partial solution is: if the system is in S0ix (modern standby) state then under no circumstances it is allowed to get warmer than some reasonable temperature (i.e. 36°C / 97°F) - a fan should absolutely never spin up. That is clearly on…

The problem usually isn't that its heating up while in that sleep state, the problem is applications then request to change the current state to a higher power state.

Sure, keep S0ix in a low enough power state that it can easily be passively cooled and not allow it to get high enough. What's to stop that av software to once again decide "S0ix? Nah, need to scan NOW, WAKE UP!!!". If there's any way to change these states in software, the apps causing hot bags today will just move to call that instead.

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My M1 MacBook Pros keyboard and trackpad quit working after almost exactly one year. Apple now wants 600 to fix the issue. This is the closest I've come to considering abandoning Apple but I don't know what to switch to.

My M1 MacBook Air has had two hardware failures now. Both would have cost over $500 each to repair without Applcare+. Applecare has been essential, but it adds extra cost on top of Apple's already premium prices. It has also made me loose trust in this machine. I had to buy an emergency laptop because I was in Europe and nowhere near an Apple store with the most recent failure.

This is also the closest I have come to considering abandoning Apple.

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My M1 MacBook Pros keyboard and trackpad quit working after almost exactly one year. Apple now wants 600 to fix the issue. This is the closest I've come to considering abandoning Apple but I don't know what to switch to.

My conclusion, drawn from decades of electronics purchases, is that AppleCare is the only extended warranty worth purchasing. It's only RARELY come up for me, but since I use my machine for work knowing I'm covered for 3 years is nice. This USED to be the period I'd keep a computer, too, but for about the last maybe 8 years (?) I find the upgrade-at-36-months thing isn't as much of a slam dunk as it used to be. I kep…

Apple allows you to extend AppleCare after the 3 years now. I still have Applecare coverage on my 2018 15" MacBook Pro.

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I haven't and they are a very new and recent creation also windows games on desktop better get it? Every single time on this site you people just LOVE your M1s dont you. Desktops generally offer better performance, get it? Also pheripherals

Apple Silicon truly is phenomenal for dev stuff. But gaming ... oh well. And you obviously can't heat your room with them, so your feet may feel cold. ;)

The last time I considered Apple Silicon I discovered that there were a few compatibility issues. I can't recall which softwares specifically, but it put me off "for a generation or two" and I ended up buying a Framework instead.

What is the compatibility story at this point?

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