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The laptop that won't die

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Re: The laptop that won't die

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This —- I really don’t care if my blog with no user registration or comments gets accessed over HTTP/1.1 without an SSL cert. Further, I find the way Chrome handles HSTS pretty gross, as some of us actually tinker with stuff that REALLY doesn’t need encryption, like little dev boards and projects running locally. Chrome makes those exceedingly difficult to use, thus the need for extremely convoluted workarounds like…

I do care. I don't want to have my name attached to any advertisements that shady airport routers may insert into the html for instance. TLS is a very good thing and we should have more of it, not less. Sorry that your unupgradable software comes from an era where security was not important.

> Sorry that your unupgradable software comes from an era where security was not important.

TenFourFox[1] continues to be maintained through community effort, and receives regular security fixes/backports. The problem is not software (although the project desperately lacks manpower), but the 20yro single-core CPU that literally sweats to push the crypto (let alone the CSS&JS).

Don't get me wrong. The relentless push for TLS is good, and I'm not arguing to take a step back - that would be insane. The change I'm asking for is, rather than doing [2] in your nginx.conf, do [3]. It doesn't change anything at all for modern browsers (when you hit that path, you're already at the mercy of an intercepting proxy), but makes your site more accessible for my ancient junk ;)

[1]: https://github.com/classilla/tenfourfox

[2]:

    return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
[3]:

    if ($http_upgrade_insecure_requests = "1") {
        return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
    }

Re: The laptop that won't die

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While everyone is bragging about their old ThinkPads, I am typing these on a Pi Zero 2W. I spilt coffee on my ~8 years old HP Laptop two weeks ago. While waiting for my parents to buy me an iPhone 15 Pro (with its USB-C to connect to the monitor) I am using a Pi Zero 2W + Asus Zenscreen Portable Monitor + 10.000 mAH Powerbank setup, connecting to my server via RDP. Github Pro student credits on DigitalOcean, all free…

I love my zero 2w as a development machine. For web browsing I try to use w3m when possible. In headless model (using mosh to access), I can even disable 2 cpu cores with acceptable performance.

"Each part upgradable and replaceable" -> super agree this point. You can clone microsd easily. So if microsd die, you swap the microsd. And if the board die, you just insert the microsd to another zero 2w and everything comes back the same as before. It's just like a "physical" vps.

Re: The laptop that won't die

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I have a back-in-the-day (2011) maxed out Thinkpad X201, that was somewhere around $1.5k (whooping max 8GB RAM, etc... :) In the intervening 12 years: - I've replaced the disk at least 2x (going to SSD, and replacing a failed one with a current 1TB this year) - Replaced the cooling fan (1x? 2x? I don't remember) - Replaced the motherboard (that was fun: https://gergely.imreh.net/blog/2022/07/an-open-heart-motherb...…

Coreboot should help with newer wifi cards. It seems you need an external flasher for this model, though: https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/x200

Would appreciate anyone to help me understand how to flash Coreboot with external flasher, never did that.

Re: The laptop that won't die

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This is another Thinkpad festival post? Let me just cold you down a bit by telling you that a 12-year-old laptop still kicking isn't that big of a deal. I have this DELL Studio laptop released back in September, 2009, and it can still kick very well too if I decide to recruit it back to my "workforce". I retired it just 3~4 years ago because I got a T480. Heck, some of my code (old versions) for the same project that…

That's not normal for Dell. Believe me. We bought a boat load of very recent Precision series and getting 12-18 months out of them would be considered a miracle. I've got a dead 5550 in the cupboard (thermal failure) and my 7670 is dying now as well. Also I have so many blown up Dell docks I look like a far Eastern recycling slum at the moment. Their monitors are good though!

Same experience with Dell Latitudes. Failures we've had: ethernet port broken, motherboard dead, bottom cover cracks, paint flaking off 5 minutes of being outside the box, battery swollen, touchpad buttons broken, USB C ports broken, heating up like crazy and draining the battery whilst in standby, keyboard missing keypresses, ... And that's just off the top of my head. After 5 years we're now using HP ProBooks and EliteBooks but already had to service some of those too unfortunately...

Re: The laptop that won't die

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Unfortunately after a lifetime of being a Thinkpad fanboy to the point of absurdity, the T410s is the laptop that made me move to Apple and not look back since.

The battery life on that thing was something to behold. Couldn't even last for regular "office work" during a 3hr flight.

The T40 and T60 lineup has a very special place in my heart, and I have a few of those laying around still operating as "headless" servers. The integrated crash cart is great!

Re: The laptop that won't die

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I can’t even bear to look at a low DPI screen for more than a few minutes. Anything under 150dpi just looks so awful to me at this point. Basically ruins all older laptops from my perspective.

A friend of mine works with his laptop connected to some 40+ inches 1080p monitor or probably just a TV screen, I never checked. "But you can see the pixels", I told him. "No, I don't because I have such a bad eyesight", he replied to me.

Basically me. I spend a lot of time with an old MacBook Pro 13” with non-retina 1280*800 screen, and I see no pixels and see very little actual difference with my workflow, while comparing to my other retina 13” MacBook Pro. Just watching videos is very different, all other tasks are the same to my eyes.

Re: The laptop that won't die

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This —- I really don’t care if my blog with no user registration or comments gets accessed over HTTP/1.1 without an SSL cert. Further, I find the way Chrome handles HSTS pretty gross, as some of us actually tinker with stuff that REALLY doesn’t need encryption, like little dev boards and projects running locally. Chrome makes those exceedingly difficult to use, thus the need for extremely convoluted workarounds like…

I do care. I don't want to have my name attached to any advertisements that shady airport routers may insert into the html for instance. TLS is a very good thing and we should have more of it, not less. Sorry that your unupgradable software comes from an era where security was not important.

People don't care because they haven't seen what "advertisements from shady airport routers" even means. This has never been a real thing in most of Europe for example. I didn't care either until I traveled to US and had to check the homepage of my then employer. The experience can be compared today if you visit a ad-heavy shady news site with Ublock Origin on at first, then off.

Re: The laptop that won't die

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While everyone is bragging about their old ThinkPads, I am typing these on a Pi Zero 2W. I spilt coffee on my ~8 years old HP Laptop two weeks ago. While waiting for my parents to buy me an iPhone 15 Pro (with its USB-C to connect to the monitor) I am using a Pi Zero 2W + Asus Zenscreen Portable Monitor + 10.000 mAH Powerbank setup, connecting to my server via RDP. Github Pro student credits on DigitalOcean, all free…

The problem I have with the zero 2w is that building anything on it seems to knock out the wifi. I've got a couple on the local network as terminals and if I try to build (e.g.) a recent python interpreter, the ssh connection dies to the extent that I have to power-cycle them. I presume they're just going into swap, but they never come back. Now that's not your use-case if you've got a remote server and all you're us…

It might be that your power supply can't keep up with the demands of wifi on top of heavy cpu use. What's your power supply rated?
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