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Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by p2hari »

yardenst wrote: post #13
swatcoder wrote: post #10

As a funded corporation pursuing sales and not just a casual hobbyist doing a tech demo, I have to ask: How did you get a license to use the image of these celebrities, let alone in commercialized deepfakes? Because that's kind of a hot topic right now and you're putting a giant target on your investors' assets if you didn't bother.

Great point, when using the API the photos used to train and generate photos are provided by the customer, and they must have the correct permissions to use them

Seriously, Gandhi had given permission to generate the photos on the website :). On one hand, openAI trains its data on copyrighted material. Now YC has funded this startup. A significant number of readers have rightly pointed out Copyright issues and the founders are saying it is up to customers and all those answers have been rightfully downvoted. I don't know what else to say here. How could this point be overlooked? If I had permission from the celebrity I would have taken a photo too. Then what is the need for this.

Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by bigmattystyles »

JohnFen wrote: post #29
bigmattystyles wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes. All out. Systems like Clearview and pimeyes, and intelligence agencies would have a lot more noise to deal with as fake detection is expensive per photo and by definition, always lagging behind the cutting edge fake generator. I would also be surprised if governments aren't also sewing distrust with their enemies by generating fakes of government officials…

> so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes. This seems to me like the worst possible thing to do. We already have a serious problem being able to determine what's true and what's not. A response like this would make the problem so much worse that it could pose an actual societal threat.

That's my point, we might regain an ounce of privacy in public.

Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by JohnFen »

bigmattystyles wrote: post #33
JohnFen wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes. This seems to me like the worst possible thing to do. We already have a serious problem being able to determine what's true and what's not. A response like this would make the problem so much worse that it could pose an actual societal threat.

That's my point, we might regain an ounce of privacy in public.

Oops, my bad. I got Poe'd.

Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by lancesells »

yardenst wrote: post #23
jasonpeacock wrote: post #21

> and creating humorous photos with celebrities. how are you handling licensing (use of celebrity or any other person's image) and copyright (original image is not from user, so is likely copyrighted by someone else)?

This is something our customers need to deal with

This is a strange answer when having celebrities on your home page and a demo of famous people.

Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by lancesells »

bigmattystyles wrote: post #27
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #6

Sounds like an ideal tool for misinformation and smear jobs. "Look, here's person X with Jeffrey Epstein", etc.

so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes. All out. Systems like Clearview and pimeyes, and intelligence agencies would have a lot more noise to deal with as fake detection is expensive per photo and by definition, always lagging behind the cutting edge fake generator. I would also be surprised if governments aren't also sewing distrust with their enemies by generating fakes of government officials…

I'm not sure where you live but you want intelligence agencies to be less effective? There are numerous complaints to make against intelligence agencies but I don't know if I want them to be worse. I just want them to operate within the law and be morally sound.

Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by AdamH12113 »

It's neat technology, but...

I'm trying to think of uses for this that aren't creepy ("manipulate... the pose of the couple... their facial expressions..."), dishonest ("photos... with celebrities..."), or dystopian ("creating new photo albums from old scanned albums... providing personalized content for user acquisition campaigns") and failing. If someone comes along and makes a fake photo of themself with a celebrity, that's great, but it's also a one-off novelty. What kind of non-sleazy recurring use is going to prompt people to pay for this?

Re: Show HN: Twogether AI – Multi-Person Photo Generation API

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Post by yardenst »

Wistar wrote: post #24
yardenst wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great point, when using the API the photos used to train and generate photos are provided by the customer, and they must have the correct permissions to use them

That misses the point that was being asked which was about the celebrity photos and not the user photos.

By customer I mean our own customer (a business) and not the end user
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