> and creating humorous photos with celebrities.
how are you handling licensing (use of celebrity or any other person's image) and copyright (original image is not from user, so is likely copyrighted by someone else)?
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#22> and creating humorous photos with celebrities. how are you handling licensing (use of celebrity or any other person's image) and copyright (original image is not from user, so is likely copyrighted by someone else)?
Is this not a case of being allowed for personal use and/or satire vs publishing the rendered works and then stepping on copyright?
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#23> and creating humorous photos with celebrities. how are you handling licensing (use of celebrity or any other person's image) and copyright (original image is not from user, so is likely copyrighted by someone else)?
This is something our customers need to deal with
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#24As a funded corporation pursuing sales and not just a casual hobbyist doing a tech demo, I have to ask: How did you get a license to use the image of these celebrities, let alone in commercialized deepfakes? Because that's kind of a hot topic right now and you're putting a giant target on your investors' assets if you didn't bother.
Great point, when using the API the photos used to train and generate photos are provided by the customer, and they must have the correct permissions to use them
That misses the point that was being asked which was about the celebrity photos and not the user photos.
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#25Sigh. This is just the sort of thing that people are afraid that AI will be used for. The fear is not entirely unjustified.
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#26Here comes Rule 34...
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#27Sounds like an ideal tool for misinformation and smear jobs. "Look, here's person X with Jeffrey Epstein", etc.
so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes. All out.
Systems like Clearview and pimeyes, and intelligence agencies would have a lot more noise to deal with as fake detection is expensive per photo and by definition, always lagging behind the cutting edge fake generator.
I would also be surprised if governments aren't also sewing distrust with their enemies by generating fakes of government officials in past random photos of graduating classes of military academies of foreign governments, just to sew chaos. And why stop there - are you a middle-management cartel member with low prospects for advancement? Find a higher ranking cartel member you want to get rid of, start generating their face in older real photos of FBI graduating classes. Who knows, a position might open.
It's a new world.
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#28> and creating humorous photos with celebrities. how are you handling licensing (use of celebrity or any other person's image) and copyright (original image is not from user, so is likely copyrighted by someone else)?
This is something our customers need to deal with
Depending on jurisdiction, you may find that this isn't exactly the case.
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#29Sounds like an ideal tool for misinformation and smear jobs. "Look, here's person X with Jeffrey Epstein", etc.
so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes. All out. Systems like Clearview and pimeyes, and intelligence agencies would have a lot more noise to deal with as fake detection is expensive per photo and by definition, always lagging behind the cutting edge fake generator. I would also be surprised if governments aren't also sewing distrust with their enemies by generating fakes of government officials…
> so I had this thought - we should flood the zone with fakes.
This seems to me like the worst possible thing to do. We already have a serious problem being able to determine what's true and what's not. A response like this would make the problem so much worse that it could pose an actual societal threat.
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#30As a funded corporation pursuing sales and not just a casual hobbyist doing a tech demo, I have to ask: How did you get a license to use the image of these celebrities, let alone in commercialized deepfakes? Because that's kind of a hot topic right now and you're putting a giant target on your investors' assets if you didn't bother.
Great point, when using the API the photos used to train and generate photos are provided by the customer, and they must have the correct permissions to use them
Am I correct to read that as "we didn't"?
If you make a tool that makes copyright infringement easy, and you demonstrate infringing use in order to market it, you're really asking for trouble.
If you care about your startup and its survival, I strongly suggest you focus your marketing on legitimate B2B use cases and avoid showing off how great it is at making deepfakes. It's one thing to turn a blind eye to misuse of your technology and a whole different thing to explicitly promote misuse as a product feature.