YouTube may face criminal complaints in EU for using ad-block detection scripts

Post by westurner » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 4:06 PM UTC

pravus wrote: post #29

westurner wrote: post #17

Why do you pretend that you are entitled to free video storage and bandwidth from YouTube? You haven't been sleighted. That service costs money to provide. No, you don't have a right to free service either. Do you pay your other bills while you demand free rendered services from these companies? Having a disability or similar does not entitle you to an unsubsidized Times Square with no ads. (NASA is running their own…

> Why do you pretend that you are entitled to free video storage and bandwidth from YouTube? Because they offered it for free. YouTube can close the doors any time. If they want my money, they can make a service offering that meets my needs. They could charge content providers for bandwidth and storage and meter it with assisted ad-support networks. They could charge a price I'm willing to pay. But they don't and I w…

Post by tzs » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

CommanderData wrote: post #43

westurner wrote: post #17

Why do you pretend that you are entitled to free video storage and bandwidth from YouTube? You haven't been sleighted. That service costs money to provide. No, you don't have a right to free service either. Do you pay your other bills while you demand free rendered services from these companies? Having a disability or similar does not entitle you to an unsubsidized Times Square with no ads. (NASA is running their own…

> Why do you pretend that you are entitled to free video storage and bandwidth from YouTube? You haven't been sleighted. That service costs money to provide. Because Google has been monopolistic in their strategy to become the no.1 video platform and crushed alternatives. This behaviour comes at a cost, pushing alternatives and now forcing adverts on everyone? I can't do much to stop their monopolistic behavior but I…

Post by westurner » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 6:31 PM UTC

ds wrote: post #39

westurner wrote: post #17

Why do you pretend that you are entitled to free video storage and bandwidth from YouTube? You haven't been sleighted. That service costs money to provide. No, you don't have a right to free service either. Do you pay your other bills while you demand free rendered services from these companies? Having a disability or similar does not entitle you to an unsubsidized Times Square with no ads. (NASA is running their own…

This is a 1 dimensional view of things. Maybe I can simplify it for you with this question: Does Google have the ability to legally compel you to only use chrome? Im guessing you would say no- Antitrust and whatnot. So the next followup is, Does Google have the ability to tell blind people they cannot use screen readers? Or that people on linux cant browse the site in lynx? Again, I am guessing the answer is no- Ther…

Post by ljf » Tue, Nov 14, 2023, 7:36 AM UTC

westurner wrote: post #70

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #49

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I really want to understand the psychology of the people who show up and comment like the OP did. Does he work for Google? For Youtube? More than a few people here on HN must, right? But there are so many like him, it can't be the explanation all the time. Does he worship big tech companies to the point that if he shills for them, he believes that career success will rain down on him, like some sort of occupational c…

> the psychology of Here's this: "I hate ads. My time is valuable. I want free things. What I do is justifiable. Especially when you consider moral relativism and their practices." And this: "I hate war, but the corporate media of the 2000s sold it to me and then didn't pay the bill; so we need citizen media." I don't think we're entitled to free video streaming; maybe because I remember how much it costs to host an…

Post by westurner » Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 3:55 PM UTC

ljf wrote: post #77

westurner wrote: post #70

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> the psychology of Here's this: "I hate ads. My time is valuable. I want free things. What I do is justifiable. Especially when you consider moral relativism and their practices." And this: "I hate war, but the corporate media of the 2000s sold it to me and then didn't pay the bill; so we need citizen media." I don't think we're entitled to free video streaming; maybe because I remember how much it costs to host an…

I'm interested that music is your hook here and ensuring artists are paid for their work (which I also agree with), but you stated before that you also use ad blockers, so how do you support those non video/audio content producers whose written or other media you consume with ad blockers? (I assume you agree that content creation is also a worthwhile endeavour, otherwise you wouldn't be bothering to read the online c…