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Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#62
Congrats to the Meteor team: it looks amazing.

Questions:

- What's browser support like?

- Do you do synchronous AJAX to return results synchronously for DB operations on the client? It looked like newly created records' IDs were returned as soon as the creation code was executed.

- How do you track a reactive function's dependencies?

- Do you plan to make a run loop similar to Ender's to stage and order various recalculations and DOM updates?

Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#64
Big props on stellar presentation. The code is impressive, but even better is their slick install, deploy, docs, screencast and examples.

This looks big. If nothing else, hopefully others will notice the code to support materials ratio. Its just as relevant for straight OS as much as it is for "businesses around GPL".

Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#65
post #42

This is a very uncool way to install something: $ curl install.meteor.com | /bin/sh

I am to blame for that. Here is our thinking on it: - Though it "feels wrong" (definitely with you there), is it really any different from downloading an installer package and running it? - You can just go to install.meteor.com in your browser if you want to see what the script does (or just leave off the | sh), which is arguably better than other installation mechanisms. Curious to hear people's thoughts :)

How about making it https://install.meteor.com?

Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#66

Interesting (and smart) that they post to Hacker News a couple of days prior to the launch of Firebase (which provided the realtime functionality used by MMO Asteroids and has been active at hackathons.)

I love Firebase. We were in their preview and they were in ours. It would make a lot of sense to use Firebase as the realtime database layer behind a Meteor app. Maybe it could be as easy as "meteor add firebase" :)

Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#67
post #7

"You can use the database api on the client!" Does that freak anyone else out? Where are they doing permissions checking? Who can run what database commands under what circumstances?

From the docs ( http://docs.meteor.com/#meteor_collection ): "Currently the client is given full write access to the collection. They can execute arbitrary Mongo update commands. Once we build authentication, you will be able to limit the client's direct access to insert, update, and remove. We are also considering validators and other ORM-like functionality." So just for toys for the moment. Still, very cool...

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Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#68
post #34

Is GPL really viable for a web framework? The Free Software Foundation has consistently held that linking to GPL code (not LGPL) is derived work.

Ditto. The whole point of the LGPL is to allow linking code not to be GPL'd.

It pretty much kills the usefulness of this project.

Re: Show HN: Meteor, a realtime JavaScript framework

#69

Hey everyone! The four of us have been working very hard on this for the last six months, and we're excited to finally take the wraps off. Can't wait to hear what you think! We've got a lot more stuff coming over the next few months, and if there are particular things you'd like us to do/prioritize, I'd love to hear about them!

Is anybody paying you to work on this full-time?
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