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Re: A huge listserv. Each day, only one random person can write to it.

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Post by zacharycohn »

polyfractal wrote: post #40
bananarama44 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

apologies if this is a dumb question, but what does 'hellbanned' mean? i understand folks' concern about dubious intentions, but if it's any consolation, this is merely a class project from Clay Shirky's Designing Conversational Spaces class at NYU.

Hellbanned means the poster sees his own comments as normal, but no one else can see them. Someone who is hellbanned typically does not know they are banned until someone tells them (or they eventually get suspicious of no one commenting on their comments or up/downvoting). Frankly I find the idea of hellbanning childish, but it has a long history on the internet.

It's not childish, it's used to defeat trolls. If you ban a troll, they'll realize it next time they try to log in and it says "YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED."

But if you hellban them, then they'll log in just fine, they'll post just fine... but no one will respond to their posts. Eventually they'll get bored because they can't get a rise out of anyone and they'll leave.

Re: A huge listserv. Each day, only one random person can write to it.

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Post by ajuc »

evolve2k wrote: post #59

Woah. Join our giant spam list. I can't see anything in this which encourages messages to not be a form of spam. Daily spam. No thanks.

But it's just one message daily. It isn't cost-effective for spammers to abuse this, I think.

Re: A huge listserv. Each day, only one random person can write to it.

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Post by Shank »

zacharycohn wrote: post #61
polyfractal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hellbanned means the poster sees his own comments as normal, but no one else can see them. Someone who is hellbanned typically does not know they are banned until someone tells them (or they eventually get suspicious of no one commenting on their comments or up/downvoting). Frankly I find the idea of hellbanning childish, but it has a long history on the internet.

It's not childish, it's used to defeat trolls. If you ban a troll, they'll realize it next time they try to log in and it says "YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED." But if you hellban them, then they'll log in just fine, they'll post just fine... but no one will respond to their posts. Eventually they'll get bored because they can't get a rise out of anyone and they'll leave.

Similarly, some sites use "discouragement," where the site will run fine, but on their machine it'll behave slowly and sometimes fail completely (bad page loads, excessively long waits then nothing happens, etc).

Re: A huge listserv. Each day, only one random person can write to it.

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Post by Karunamon »

latchkey wrote: post #39
Karunamon wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the lawyers are merely agents of the people actually doing the ruining. And without lawyers, trademark laws would likely not be of the scale or complexity that they are now. But that's another rant :) >Also, trademarks are not bad things. In this case, I tend to disagree. Especially as "listserv" should be genericized by this point.

> Especially as "listserv" should be genericized by this point. Have you read the history? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISTSERV It appears as though the author of the software decided to commercialize it and now you fault him for trademarking it? I think you're kind of baseless in your argument here. Update: I don't fault the guy for taking some software, re-writing it and then commercializing it. If the original au…

>If the original authors didn't want to trademark the name or even protest the trademark application, then that is their fault.

Taking advantage of a situation like this still makes you a colossal jerk, regardless of how legally in the right you may be.

Re: A huge listserv. Each day, only one random person can write to it.

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Post by bricestacey »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #55
polyfractal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hellbanned means the poster sees his own comments as normal, but no one else can see them. Someone who is hellbanned typically does not know they are banned until someone tells them (or they eventually get suspicious of no one commenting on their comments or up/downvoting). Frankly I find the idea of hellbanning childish, but it has a long history on the internet.

You mean for people like Losethos?

I thought the same thing. I find it shameful.

Re: A huge listserv. Each day, only one random person can write to it.

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Post by polynomial »

abcd_f wrote: post #34

This is not going to end well. Mark my words. Temptation to game an access to a 1 mil opt-in mail list is very real. From auctioning a chance to write, to product placements, to ads, to god knows what else. That's not to get into messages on highly controversial subjects.

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