The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

Post by yencabulator » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 1:56 PM UTC

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> Or, my point in short: cut people some slack That's what we are doing here! But in this case most people seems to be sympathetic to the people that suffered to get you and your wife a diamond? I don't think rich people with frivolous desires need any more "empathy"

Diamonds aren't rich people game, they're middle-class and above game. Hell, probably even below. That's what makes the arguments about being associated[0] with violence fall on deaf ears - approximately everyone in the west is participating. Not the Evil Bad No Good Rich One-Percenters. It's all the 90-percenters. -- [0] - It's always "some of them", "could be". The industry has blood on its hand. The particular roc…

Post by jonkho » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 2:01 PM UTC

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If you’re thinking about marriage in terms of leverage you’ve guaranteed you’re going to find out about those courts.

> If you’re thinking about marriage in terms of leverage you’ve guaranteed you’re going to find out about those courts. The reality is that in every relationship (whether marriage, business, friend, sibling, whatever) one person will have more leverage than the other. That's not the problem. The problem is when the party with the leverage uses it! The phrase "happy wife, happy life" is problematic because it normalis…

Post by closewith » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 2:04 PM UTC

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That depends on where you live. In some places parental rights are linked to marriage.

You have parental rights even without marriage, in America and the western world.

Post by ragazzina » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 2:05 PM UTC

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jl6 wrote: post #283

Diamonds are a scam and an ethical minefield, but I disagree with the notion that women are brainwashed or shallow for wanting one. It’s not about the diamond. It’s about wanting a man with enough resources to waste on a diamond. A diamond’s lack of intrinsic value or utility is a feature. The waste is the point. In a sea of potential mates, finding one who can throw away $3000 as though it were nothing, is a great f…

Yeah, it's not brainwashing. That's hilarious if people think any marketing company would go to the effort to brainwash people, if such a thing is even possible. Marketing companies leverage what is already there. Car companies didn't brainwash men into wanting "rugged", "angry" looking "trucks". They merely recognised the slightly pathetic tendency for some men to want to make themselves look bigger and tougher. It'…

Post by vel0city » Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 2:13 PM UTC

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A large diamond actually looks pretty nice (and very different from mossianite), not sure why that is devaluing the agency of anyone (provided the costs are relatively easy to afford). Even uncut diamond crystals have a very particular "fatty" shine to it that some people might like and enjoy.

I seriously doubt any regular person can tell the difference between diamond and moissanite, or even cubic zirconia. Of course it's bad policy to lie to your wife-to-be but technically I feel safe saying you could buy any of these and still claim it's a diamond - at least until they decide to pawn it but by that time it's also less important for your relationship I guess.