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The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Yes, it counts. If you look at most modern traditions, 90% of them are less than 100-150 years old. Christmas today looks nothing like Christmas in 1900, across the world. Most of the foods today (and I'm not talking about fast food) were invented in the same period. At least their modern incarnations, sometimes they have really old names but the old versions had very little in common with the current food.

I disagree, Tinsel is at the edge of that 150 year window only going back to 1890’s, but Christmas hasn’t changed that much from 200 years ago. If you look at old pictures Christmas trees taken in 1900 it looks basically the same as one today except for the LED lighting showing how slowly things evolved. Documentation isn’t that great, but back in the 1450’s people decorated fir trees with apples alongside other orna…

You're talking about Central and Northern Europe (+ their colonies).

Christmas in Eastern Europe and most other places looked nothing like that. Heck, Seychelles and Hawaii decorate their local trees like they're fir trees in Scandinavia.

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> Basically the only reason someone would have to sell their wedding rings are divorce or some other downturn. That's why your shop should only sell the weddings rings from people who had a long and successful marriage and died peacefully in their sleep at age 95.

Haha, yes indeed. It'll be the free-range eggs equivalent for buying jewelry. Ethically farmed from happy wedded couples.

I don't think people who insist on diamonds care about how they are sourced. After all the blood diamond thing didn't stop anyone. What people want is to be skillfully lied to.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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KFC Christmas dinner in Japan is a fun one. To be fair, all of our major holidays have been co-opted by corporations and they are still warmly celebrated. Going back to wedding rings, giving your new partner something of value is a very old tradition indeed (though what's perceived as valuable has changed greatly).

Giving a partner something of actual value is one thing, but diamonds aren’t worth what you’re paying. That purchase needs to support an entire industry and massive marketing campaign around maintaining an artificial tradition.

Define value.

You might not value it, but I dare say you value things that I don't value.

Define artificial tradition. Yes someone can invent it, but it requires people to actually adopt it. All the trappings of Christmas were invented by someone. They aren't 'artificial' though

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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I wouldn't marry anyone whose happiness is dependent on a artificially expensive hard and shiny rock whose prestige was inflated for years by an industry built on slave labor, especially when far less expensive alternatives exist. If she is apprised of the alternatives and still demands "No I want EXPENSIVE shiny thing" then it's cultural shaming factoring into the decision making. You have to reevaluate what she see…

That's the most reddit comment I have yet seen on HN

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Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Diamonds are still too expensive as long as you can't get phone screens, PC heatsinks and chip wafers made from the stuff.

I imagine they're working on it. But why heatsinks and chip wafers? I know diamond is carbon, but does it have some specific properties except hardness that help with those?

Diamond has the highest thermal conductivity of any natural material. Five times more than silver.

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Has anyone ever tried to sell an engagement or wedding ring with diamonds? You get cents on the dollar. Even or I should say especially brand names like Tiffany. The whole thing is a scam from start to finish and I wish I could go back in time and avoid the entire thing.

Jewelry isn’t an investment, it’s conspicuous consumption. That said there’s really no reason to buy new unless it’s a custom made piece.

You can reuse the diamond and get a new ring.

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People who make irrational choices about large financial purchases don’t make good long term life partners.

Wait till you hear that car purchases are largely emotional and 99% of what we say about those decisions are post-facto rationalizations.

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Diamonds are still too expensive as long as you can't get phone screens, PC heatsinks and chip wafers made from the stuff.

I imagine they're working on it. But why heatsinks and chip wafers? I know diamond is carbon, but does it have some specific properties except hardness that help with those?

It has a very high heat conductivity.

From Wikipedia:

> Thermal conductivity of natural diamond was measured to be about 2200 W/(m·K), which is five times more than silver, the most thermally conductive metal.

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Has anyone ever tried to sell an engagement or wedding ring with diamonds? You get cents on the dollar. Even or I should say especially brand names like Tiffany. The whole thing is a scam from start to finish and I wish I could go back in time and avoid the entire thing.

Basically all jewelry is a scam if you look at it as an investment.

From people that I observed over the years I saw people who had low self esteem mostly that would pull up with loads of jewelry.

There are also people who like it as small accents but I don't think they do it because it is worth something but more like they just like it and that's fine.

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Because the marketing goal of the diamond industry is to convince buyers that the amount of money you spent indicates how much you love your spouse.

Theoretically you could spend the same amount an some insanely huge used diamond.

"Used things are for poor people" - they know their market well and don't even have to actively diminish used diamonds/rings value, their customers do it for them.
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