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If she wants a diamond despite knowing all the misery the diamond industry spreads, then you should probably just break up
What misery does a Chinese lab grown diamond really spread?
Best not to ask.
The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge
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#252I would like to take this moment to thank https://diamondssuck.com/ for preventing me from buying my wife a diamond, and getting her a much prettier moissanite instead. It's been on hn's front page several times.
Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…
For some, it's about the principle/value alignment. Similar to how you'll likely be happier (or at least have fewer conflicts) with someone who shares your dietary preferences or religion.
Sometimes it's no big deal, and I'd recommend your advice. But if it is a big deal for someone, then just be up front about it and why you will/won't do it.
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#253The diamond industry has a terrible problem. They promoted diamonds as "perfection". The most valuable diamond is supposed to be a crystal with no flaws. Then they ran into the semiconductor materials industry. Wafer fabs want every atom where it is supposed to be. So semiconductor materials manufacturers are very good at making crystals with few or no flaws. So, now the synthetic diamond market looks like this.[1] D…
That first link makes me want to buy some 1 carat CVDs to play around with.
I mean at those prices, making my own diamond chandelier isn't too out of the question.
Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge
#254I would like to take this moment to thank https://diamondssuck.com/ for preventing me from buying my wife a diamond, and getting her a much prettier moissanite instead. It's been on hn's front page several times.
Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…
Or get a new fiancé...
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Do you, uh... want to explain? It's definitely a cringy, antiquated phrase, but it doesn't seem harmful. People with wives should tie their own happiness to their wife's, shouldn't they?
> People with wives should tie their own happiness to their wife's, shouldn't they? I think it's more that the expectation that husbands exist to serve their wives is harmful. Be honest, do you really think a phrase meaning "keeping your husband happy and satisfied would make your life better" is not harmful?
"Be honest, do you really think a phrase meaning 'keeping your husband happy and satisfied would make your life better' is not harmful?" It's one of the oldest and best pieces of relationship advice in human history. What the heck is wrong with it?
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
If she wants a diamond despite knowing all the misery the diamond industry spreads, then you should probably just break up
In 2023, the diamond mining industry in South Africa and Botswana is pretty clean, treats workers well, and pays good wages. I cannot answer for other countries in Africa, but you can be very specific about the origin of your diamond when buying it.
Even if it's "clean" relative to worse places, it's still not ethical.
Mining is still dangerous work. The workers are still underpaid. The profits are still stolen by companies that are literally the vestiges of European colonialism.
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#257Oh no, a cartel poised on a scam is losing money! Won't somebody please think of the hedge funds!
Not to defend hedge funds, but what does it have to do with them? DeBeers is a privately owned corporation
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…
Happy wife, happy life.
Incredibly misogynistic, boomer quip that needs to die.
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I guess that works for most men. Personally, one of my criteria is that she can't want a diamond, that might sound crazy but I want a partner in life that is financially sensible and fiscally responsible, we have to leave our children with more than we were left with or we have failed, that is a core part of my philosophy of family building. Thankfully I found her. I also had a talk with her dad about it after I met…
> we have to leave our children with more than we were left with or we have failed You’re being pretty harsh on yourself there. Wealth doesn’t only depend on your own efforts and behavior, but a myriad other things. Also, how do you calculate whether they are left with more than you? Is that about inflation adjusted wealth, or other things like education, resilience, number of hours spent with their dad, physical and…
For me it is capacity to build the life they want and to do the same for their kids.
Financially, yes, I need to leave them better off than me, inflation adjusted of course. Education, good habits, good examples, all of these things matter to me as well.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…
If she wants a diamond despite knowing all the misery the diamond industry spreads, then you should probably just break up
Or maybe they have similar morals are made for each other. Clearly OP doesn't care enough about that misery either.