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The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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I would like to take this moment to thank https://diamondssuck.com/ for preventing me from buying my wife a diamond, and getting her a much prettier moissanite instead. It's been on hn's front page several times.

Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…

I guess that works for most men. Personally, one of my criteria is that she can't want a diamond, that might sound crazy but I want a partner in life that is financially sensible and fiscally responsible, we have to leave our children with more than we were left with or we have failed, that is a core part of my philosophy of family building.

Thankfully I found her. I also had a talk with her dad about it after I met him and he called diamonds a scam. So she gets it and I'm happy.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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And make sure you appraise her of it - shenanigans like buying something else and passing it off as a diamond could result in her being absolutely embarrassed in front of her friends, which should not be a position you want to put her in.

The social dynamics you are describing at first come across as absurd. It is so divorced from any lived experience, instead resembling something out of satire or a sitcom. Then of course I remember some people earnestly live like this, and then it is just sad.

Seriously. So much identity and self worth tied up in a stone. I can’t imaging being that obsessed with impressing people with something I bought.

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Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…

I guess that works for most men. Personally, one of my criteria is that she can't want a diamond, that might sound crazy but I want a partner in life that is financially sensible and fiscally responsible, we have to leave our children with more than we were left with or we have failed, that is a core part of my philosophy of family building. Thankfully I found her. I also had a talk with her dad about it after I met…

Splurging every once in a while does not inherently make someone “fiscally irresponsible.” For many people, especially on this forum, $3k-$5k for a ring is literally a few days work or less worth of pay.

(Please no one get pedantic on ring cost to me, absolutely not the point of this comment)

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Guys, buying diamonds, can complain all day about what a rip off it is (it is). But if you apprise your fiancé of the alternatives / opp costs (moissanite, man made, second hand, etc) and she still wants a new diamond, just get her a new diamond. It will make her happy for years. My wife had her heart set on a pink diamond, so that’s what I got her. I made it clear though that if I got this, she is not getting a new…

Happy wife, happy life.

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I guess if they are desperate to get married they do whatever. Of they can discuss expectations at the beginning of the relationship like they do with other goals (i.e. kids or no kids).

They literally paying to go to the clink. Nothing that a marriage license permits you to do that you can’t do without one. Except you can be liable to get sued when the relationship ends. Literally the only differentiator of significance.

That depends on where you live. In some places parental rights are linked to marriage.

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Happy wife, happy life.

My cousin's wife has cut him off from our entire family.

Not necessarily bad without knowing more about the parties involved. Some families are toxic and awful and should be cut off.

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I guess that works for most men. Personally, one of my criteria is that she can't want a diamond, that might sound crazy but I want a partner in life that is financially sensible and fiscally responsible, we have to leave our children with more than we were left with or we have failed, that is a core part of my philosophy of family building. Thankfully I found her. I also had a talk with her dad about it after I met…

Splurging every once in a while does not inherently make someone “fiscally irresponsible.” For many people, especially on this forum, $3k-$5k for a ring is literally a few days work or less worth of pay. (Please no one get pedantic on ring cost to me, absolutely not the point of this comment)

It’s not the cost that’s the issue, it’s the underlying desire. Belief in astrology is seemingly harmless, but it’s a sign of underlying irrationality that I find unacceptable. The ritual around a hunk of carbon is the same category of thinking IMO.

Also, ‘a few days salary’ rather defeats the rituals purpose.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Better advice: upgrade to a fiance that isn't distracted by pointless bling.

oh yes preference for a diamond ring is definitely a dealbreaker

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it definitely is a deal breaker for me. It speaks to someone's priorities. If they're more concerned about outdoing their girlfriends over cosmopolitans or worthless trinkets than the fiscal health of their family I don't want to start a family with them. And that's what this is all about right, family. I'd like to leave my kids with something significant and more than I was left with, so a partner that sees blowing thousands of dollars on frivolity and vanity as a positive is probably not a good match for me.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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A Needless Pedanticism, that is only technically correct if you mean gold that won’t kill you We can make gold in the lab. It’s radioactive gold but still gold. Edit, actually i think in the 1980s Seaborg might have created stable gold out of bismuth, but just might have. The articles aren’t mentioning which isotope was created so I don’t know. Mercury to gold is radioactive isotopes, which is the one I’d known about…

Tangentially related item, since we're just getting weird now. Related to gold and (SPOILER ALERT) Mercury. Listen to the podcast Shit Town. It's one of the best pieces of media ever created.

Agreed. Probably easier to find under the name “S-Town” though.
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