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The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by toomuchtodo »

kmeisthax wrote: post #96
wolfgang42 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This happens if you use 1.1.1.1 as your DNS resolver, the result of a long-running dispute between Cloudflare and Archive.is[1]; searching HN for “archive cloudflare” will get you lots of discussion. As I understand it: the technical cause is that the Archive.is authoritative DNS server refuses to respond correctly to requests without EDNS subnet information, and Cloudflare’s resolver refuses to send requests with it…

Sooooo the weird thing for me is that I never actually used 1.1.1.1, and it's not in my DNS. archive.today loads correctly in Chrome without a problem so I suspect Firefox is just using 1.1.1.1 over DoH or something.

Appears so.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/cloudflare...

> To counter such threats, Mozilla has partnered with Cloudflare to provide direct DNS resolution from within the Firefox browser using the Cloudflare Resolver for Firefox. What this means is that whenever you select or type a web address in the Firefox browser your DNS lookup request will be sent over a secure channel to the Cloudflare Resolver for Firefox rather than to an unknown DNS resolver, significantly decreasing the odds of any unwanted spying or man in the middle attacks.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by selcuka »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #85
bombcar wrote: post #70

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And make sure you appraise her of it - shenanigans like buying something else and passing it off as a diamond could result in her being absolutely embarrassed in front of her friends, which should not be a position you want to put her in.

Not everyone wants to spend $20,000 on a rock so that their spouse isn’t “embarrassed in front of her friends.”

Sure, but calling them your spouse then not giving a crap about their feelings is not fair. You were free to marry someone else, who thinks more in line the way you do.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by pbj1968 »

subpixel wrote: post #72
brink wrote: post #3

I would like to take this moment to thank https://diamondssuck.com/ for preventing me from buying my wife a diamond, and getting her a much prettier moissanite instead. It's been on hn's front page several times.

My wife thinks little of diamonds. So when we got engaged I gave her a ring set with an emerald my grandfather got in Colombia in the 50s and that my grandmother and mother wore. Turns out all those warm fuzzies are generally cancelled out by the likelihood that our emerald is as bloody as any diamond. The story of emerald trafficking in Colombia is dark.

Emeralds are far more valuable. XD

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by climb_stealth »

Loughla wrote: post #68
huytersd wrote: post #33

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There’s specifically no market for them somehow. I tried to look but the only places I could found that sold them was at pawn shops.

Honestly, second hand diamond and other gemstone jewelry seems like such a missed opportunity. I feel like people would go for it, with the new focus on sustainability and what-not. I wonder why that's not a thing?

It can feel like a bad luck kind of thing. Basically the only reason someone would have to sell their wedding rings are divorce or some other downturn. And don't want to invite bad luck by buying it.

Similar to not buying clothing from someone deceased or a wedding dress from someone divorced.

Can argue that this is not very rational. But much about the wedding process isn't :)

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by bombcar »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #85
bombcar wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And make sure you appraise her of it - shenanigans like buying something else and passing it off as a diamond could result in her being absolutely embarrassed in front of her friends, which should not be a position you want to put her in.

Not everyone wants to spend $20,000 on a rock so that their spouse isn’t “embarrassed in front of her friends.”

Intentionally deceiving the person you want to spouse isn’t the way to play the game.

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Post by kibwen »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #81
subpixel wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife thinks little of diamonds. So when we got engaged I gave her a ring set with an emerald my grandfather got in Colombia in the 50s and that my grandmother and mother wore. Turns out all those warm fuzzies are generally cancelled out by the likelihood that our emerald is as bloody as any diamond. The story of emerald trafficking in Colombia is dark.

On the other hand, not wearing the gem means those people slaved away in the mines for nothing.

> for nothing

Rather, I suspect they slaved away in the mines so that they wouldn't be whipped and have their hands cut off.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by kibwen »

psyclobe wrote: post #29
jamiek88 wrote: post #4

Has anyone ever tried to sell an engagement or wedding ring with diamonds? You get cents on the dollar. Even or I should say especially brand names like Tiffany. The whole thing is a scam from start to finish and I wish I could go back in time and avoid the entire thing.

Best thing I ever did was buy my (now X) wife's engagement ring off Craigslist.

My condolences regarding your divorce from Twitter.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by ranting-moth »

xwdv wrote: post #41

Diamonds are worthless, but reject them at your own peril. When my friend proposed to his girlfriend of 3 years, because the ring didn’t have a diamond she said no.

My friend proposed with a ring he made over a weekend out of no fancy materials. She said yes.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Post by selcuka »

subpixel wrote: post #79
Loughla wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, second hand diamond and other gemstone jewelry seems like such a missed opportunity. I feel like people would go for it, with the new focus on sustainability and what-not. I wonder why that's not a thing?

The majority of people who understand that diamonds are a scam are not simultaneously attracted to diamonds.

How? You don't usually buy diamonds for yourself, so the person who understands the diamonds are a scam does not have to be the same person who is attracted to diamonds.
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